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Athlon 64x2 5000+ black edition - black screen when installed

Discussion in 'How to: Building a PC, Modding, Overclocking' started by montejoe, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. montejoe

    montejoe Techie7 New Member

    So here is my problem. I have a HP Pavilion with a Asus A8M2N-LA motherboard that is currently running a 5000+ series processor Regular edition. 4gb of ram, with Vista 32bit. In an attempt of making this system last another year or so I want to install a Black edition for overclocking to accomodate a teen son that likes to play online occassionally.I bought the Black edition because I heard it can run at 3.0 Ghz pretty easily...it is used though and the seller said it was good, flip of the coin...I know. I checked the pins-all straight, I installed the processor, thermal paste, new heat sink and fan...start up nothing but black screen.
    I went back to my original processor fine again. The bios have the current revision (5.07), I pulled the battery (because someone said that might do it), I have searched for info on the black edition processor and found little to nothing other then reviews and AMD is pretty much useless because I found nothing on their site about this processor. I dont have another computer to test it on, but do know a repair place nearby that might test it for me.
    I ordered a new install of Windows 7 (because I dont like upgrades) and have backed up my harddrive on a external harddrive so that I can upgrade this unit to a new 1Tb harddrive running Win 7 at 64 bit.
    So should I wait and do the win 7 to 64 bit change and then try the processor again or am I just missing something that would make the overclocking unit work? Any help here would be appreciated.
     
  2. Digerati

    Digerati Super Moderator Techie7 Moderator

    Installing a new OS will not help because you are not getting through POST far enough to hit the hard drive. According to this page that board (made by ASUS but exclusively for HP) does support the 64 X2 5000+, though I don't know about the "Black" edition. I would make sure you have the latest BIOS update. And you might contact HP tech support and see what they say.

    That said, understand upgrading the CPU is typically 3rd in line of upgrades to improve performance - after adding RAM and upgrading the graphics solution.
     
  3. montejoe

    montejoe Techie7 New Member

    I already have the Ram maxed out at 4GB and have a GPU on the way to handle the gaming my son does. Just got the Ram in and rebooted it to check that it was reading it properly then shut it down to do the CPU. The Bios is the most current edition according to HP's site and yea the motherboard handles up to the 5000+ series, but does not say black edition on its spec sheet, nor did I think it would call it out. I am leaning more to a bad CPU, but will send a note to HP support about it.
     
  4. Digerati

    Digerati Super Moderator Techie7 Moderator

    4Gb is the max? That's too bad - especially with 64-bit Windows coming. That will certainly be a bottleneck. The "sweetspot" for Windows 7 64-bit is 8Gb on a dual-channel memory motherboard.

    Keep us posted.
     
  5. montejoe

    montejoe Techie7 New Member

    I just wanted to get away from Vista and 32 bit old tech. I read that the 64 bit version needed at least 2gb and that 4 Gb would allow the system to run efficient for most everything, photoshop, and light multitasking. I am just looking to get another year out of this setup and then be able to transition it easily into the next setup I build. I am not the kind of person that needs the best of the best right now, if it works, its fine. Plus I live out in the country and we dont get great internet service out here for online gaming.
    Have not heard anything yet from HP support on the motherboard.
     
  6. Digerati

    Digerati Super Moderator Techie7 Moderator

    And that is true. Certainly with 64-bit you can take advantage of the full 4Gb. With a 32-bit OS, you will only see around 3.2 - 3.6Gb. Plus 64-bit Windows 7 has a couple security features the 32-bit version does not.

    I would urge you to get the full "Retail" license of Windows 7 and not the cheaper OEM/System Builder license. OEM licenses are tied to the computer they come with or were bought for and are NOT legally transferable to a new computer (or upgraded motherboard). Only full Retail licenses can legally be transfered to a new computer as long as any previous installations are removed from any other computer.
     
  7. montejoe

    montejoe Techie7 New Member

    Update, So I had the Black Ed CPU tested by a buddy who had no problem booting up in it. I took it back home and using the basic onboard graphics still could not get it to work on mine...ugh. So I put it on ebay and sold it. In the process of wiping out my old computer and giving it to my Mom right now which reminded me that I left this post unfinished. Never heard back from HP about possible conflicts, but for some reason it just did not want to work for my system. Ended up building a new rig with a MSI FX board, 6 core AMD, 16 GB of ram, but can take 32 if I feel I need, new GFX GPU (I know "I should of got a Ati Radeon because they work better with AMD") and stuck it in a old Kaos Systems gamer case that I picked up and parted out the old stuff inside. Got a nice little system here now and did it for a reasonable price. Thanks for the help guys on my issue.
     
  8. Digerati

    Digerati Super Moderator Techie7 Moderator

    Well, I am sorry you could not use the CPU you wanted but am glad you got things sorted out.

    And thanks for the followup post here. :)