Neal, may I ask you a question? I would really like to learn how to diagnose HJT logs. Do you have any suggestions on where I can go to get schooled on the basics of diagnosing HJT logs. Trust me I won't offer advice or try to recommend what to have HJT fix without the approval of the Spyware gurus here at the D.A.L. forums. I know hardware and software for Windows 95, 98, 98 S.E., Windows 2000 Pro, Server, advanced Server. (pretty much every flavor of Windows 2000) I am also good with Windows XP Home Edition and Windows XP Pro. If you can point me in the direction of a few sites that will school me in the diagnosing of HJT logs I will appreciate it very much. Thanks in advance man.