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wireless for dummies! please help!

Discussion in 'Firewalls and Networks' started by rea_milton, Jul 4, 2006.

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  1. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    :( please please could someone help me in total layman's terms? I've just got a laptop which is wireless enabled. Being rather naive, all I thought i had to do was to buy a router, plug my broadband modem into it, and connect to it! but how! I have a netgear rangemax router, but it does not have a cd or instructions (i was told could get them off the web). I have plugged my modem into it, and all the right bits on it are flashing! Please, please could someone talk me REAL slowly through this? I am SO frustrated!!
  2. brain_damage

    brain_damage D-A-L Team Member (UK)

    Hi and welcome to D-A-L :)

    where did you get the router from?

    Have you connected the moden to the router through the WAN port, have you got a spare ethernet cable to connect the laptop to the router with wires, to make sure the router's working properly.

    start >> Run >> CMD >> type ipconfig (hit enter) that should give you an IP Address, a subnet mask and a default gateway, the default gateway is the IP address of the router

    if you type that into your address bar of your homepage you should be able to get to the home page of the router
  3. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    thank you for getting back to me so quickly!
    ok, you've underestimated how clueless I am! the wan port? I plugged the modem into the router, the wee key on the underneath of the router says it's the 'internet' port. (it also has LAN ports 1-4?) the router came with it's own cable (with a telephone type connection at each end-ethernet?) so do you want me to plug modem to router, then to laptop?
    p.s, was a factory-refurbished one i picked up, but no manual/cd
  4. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    you're a genius! (yes, I am aware that I'm also quite thick) plugged the modem to router to laptop and got a wizard thingy (d'oh!!) so it's set it up. now I'll try the next bit to see if I can set it up to work wireless....
  5. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    ok, got to the home page and everything the settings all set themselves, and the wireless indicator on the router is flashing. now, how do I get the computer to work on the net when I unplug the stupid router from it! I assume I'll need to change some settings in my computer, but which!! I have XP.
  6. brain_damage

    brain_damage D-A-L Team Member (UK)

    on the home page have you got set up information, with setting like.

    WAN IP Address : xx.xx.xx.xx
    Connection : DHCP
    Wireless SSID : Jeffs
    Security : Enable - 64 Bit
    LAN IP Address :
    DHCP Server : ON

    on the security bit does it have if security is enabled ?


    I'm not a genius
  7. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    go on, you are a wee bit.
    now, do you want me to go the netgear page with the router plugged in to get this info?
    (remember- clueless. totally)
  8. brain_damage

    brain_damage D-A-L Team Member (UK)

    yes please

    the laptop works ok wired?
  9. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    yep it does,
    okay, under 'advanced wireless settings' i have enable ssid broadcast and enable wireless router radio. any good?
  10. brain_damage

    brain_damage D-A-L Team Member (UK)

    on the wireless SSID what name does it have?

    you need to make sure the wireless radio is set to enable

    can you get to wireless sercurity?, if you can set security to disable to start with, just to make sure you're getting wireless

    with no security set anyone within reach can use your wireless network

    We'll go through setting security afterwards
  11. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    found it! yes, disabled it. was set to wep or some such. whatever. ok, wireless radio and the other one i said both enabled. the name of the ssid is NETGEAR.
  12. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    done all that, under wireless ssid, name is NETGEAR. radio enabled, security disabled...
  13. jephree

    jephree ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨

    brain_damage has informed us that he will be absent for a few days.

    I, myself, have little wireless experience but I tried searching Netgear. They advise setting up with the CD Wizard and I cannot find an online version but there is a manual and other bits of info:


    When you click that link you will see two versions of that router which link to manuals; setup guides; etc.

    Let us know if this helps.
  14. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    i got to the wizard by following brain damage's instructions. according to the wizard, everything's set up ok, it's just i don't know how to make the computer 'talk' to the router once i unplug the ethernet adaptor! I can't seem to work the xp setup thing, I don't have a clue!
  15. jephree

    jephree ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨

  16. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    hi, yes I did thanks.
    I have just went up and bought a wireless card for my old computer, and it installed and was wireless in two minutes!! it's really ancient as well, whereas I can't get my fancy-assed xp one to do it because I don't know how to set it up wireless with its inbuilt network card. I just don't know how to work it. the router's obviously fine, the old laptop is working away no probs. (am on it just now)
  17. jephree

    jephree ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨

    I would compare the two machines' IP configs. As before go to Start > Run > cmd

    Then type: ipconfig /all

    Do this on each machine so we can compare the differences.

    To post this info you can right click in the CMD box and choose select all then right click again.

    This will have copied it to your clipboard.

    Open a Notepad: start > all programs > accessories > notepad

    Paste the clipboard into the notepad by activating the window then press Ctrl V

    Do this for both computers so we can compare each ipconfig.

    Let me know if I am too confusing ;)
  18. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    the old laptop 'can't find CMD'
    the new one can, but i'll need to switch to it for a second to get the results! hold on...
  19. rea_milton

    rea_milton Techie7 New Member

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Andrea1>ipconfig/all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : your-1ff2e8a4b1
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-7B-42-F7-6D
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . :
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 06 August 2006 22:19:23
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 07 August 2006 20:25:59

    C:\Documents and Settings\Andrea1>

    this is the new one. make any sense?
  20. jephree

    jephree ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨

    The old laptop is running '98? Or?

    Try either: command.exe or cmd.exe

    To compare the two would be the most informative.
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