Someone please help me. I can't seem to be able to remove a program. I installed the software for Java that came with the tutorial: The Complete Java 2 Training Course.

There was a problem so I tried to remove the software and start again but I couldn't remove a 1MB file for Forte for Java, Release 2.0, Community Edition. I have tried to remove it from the Add/Remove programs Utility. It says that it has completed the requested operation but the file remains every time. I've tried the same logged in as administrator in safe mode but file still remains. I have removed all the references to the Sun Microsystems Java software( the other programs that were not a problem...ie the SDK, the plug-in, etc ) from the registry editor(regedit) but the 1MB file still remains.

When I try to reinstall it just asks if I want to remove the software again as when I just try to remove it.

I just got this new Dell Laptop and the tech assistance tells me to do a system recovery but I've already done this twice and it takes all day to reinstall all software and setup the computer to my liking.

There must be somebody that actually knows the command line codes to remove this file so I can reinstall the software to go through this tutorial this summer.

Thanks in advance,
Charles Thomas

Uninstall Programs Manually

Just because Windows XP has the Add/Remove Programs feature it doesn't mean your application will appear in the list. Furthermore, even if it does appear, it's no guarantee that the uninstall feature will work. When you run across one of these situations the items listed below will help in getting rid of the application. Be aware that these steps may not remove everything associated with the application and can impact other applications on the computer. Have a backup or restore point and use caution.

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Find the directory for the application and delete all the files in the directory. Delete the directory. e.g. click C: under My Computer then Program Files etc.
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Open regedit (start/run regedit) and navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE and find the folder for the application. Delete the folder.
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Open regedit and navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE and find the folder for the application. Delete the folder.
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To remove the application entry from Add/Remove Programs (if present) open regedit and navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Uninstall and find the folder for the application. Delete the folder.
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Some applications have Services attached to them. If this is the case, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es, locate and delete the service.
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In Windows Explorer, navigate to the individual user settings and delete program references. Common places to check would be:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs and delete relevant entries.
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup and delete relevant entries.
C:\Documents and Settings\%YourUserID%\Start Menu\Programs and delete relevant entries.
[Do this for each User ID listed]
C:\Documents and Settings\%YourUserID%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup and delete relevant entries.
[Do this for each User ID listed]

If no entries were found in the previous step and the application launches automatically, navigate to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows
and delete the entry.

A good free Registry Cleaner here: RegSeeker

It is a good idea to backup your Registry before cleaning. This is a good free tool for that:

[ERUNT] Registry Backup and Restore for Windows
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/


[ERUNT Download URLs]
http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt.zip
http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe


[Installing & Using ERUNT]
http://www.winxptutor.com/regback.htm
http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_eruntuse.html
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on...runt/erunt.txt


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Altering system files; & or modifying the registry can be risky and D-A-L.com and its members cannot accept liability for any adverse effects caused by following advice freely given on this site.



Also two small utilities to delete files on a re-boot outside of Windows:



http://www.gibinsoft.net/gipoutils/bin/moveonb.exe


http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelF...lesInstall.zip

Thank you so much for your reply to my request for a solution to remove a persistant file in the add/remove program field. I have tried everything you suggested but nothing worked.

I removed all the registries that had anything to do with Sun or Java hoping that the 1MB file would be gone with all the other Java application files. But it remains. I still can't uninstall this file or reinstall the Java program files.

I used the registry cleaners(around 500 flagged and removed) and the registry optimizer(5% reduction) created several backups(hopefully won't need them, I really don't know yet how to recover it if needed) and removed all the registry files to do with Java.

Charles Thomas

Are you able to locate this 1MB file or are you just seeing it in Add/Remove Programs?

If you can see the file what happens when you try to delete it?

Did you try both of those removal programs that I posted?

I see that Forte for Java, Release 2.0, Community Edition installs in forte4j_user.

Thank you for answering.
In answer to your questions:


QUESTION 1: Are you able to locate this 1MB file or are you just seeing it
in Add/Remove Programs?

Just in Add/Remove Programs.


QUESTION 2: If you can see the file what happens when you try to delete it?

It asks me if I want to remove the selected application and all of
its components, I select yes, it says maintenance completed but the file
remains.

This same sequence happens if I try to reinstall.

QUESTION 3: Did you try both of those removal programs that I posted?

Yes. Though, I Haven't tried the external boot app.


QUESTION 4: I see that Forte for Java, Release 2.0, Community Edition
installs in forte4j_user.

You were right about the forte4j file. According to the information
this is where I should find the uninstaller but I opened it (as well as
all the other files in windows explorer) and can't find anything
named uninstaller.

I found this in the documentation, but I don't know where it is
located or how to access the uninstaller.

(This direction set for all windows platforms)

Uninstalling Preceding Forte for Java
1. Run the uninstall.class located in /forte4j.

2. Follow the dialog boxes to complete the
uninstall.


Also, I am familiar with the incompatibility between different OS. Am not
sure if I need to add second backslash as in opening files in C++ in Linux
or need to change forward slash to backslash.

(This is in reference to file path above: /forte4j)

Sorry to be so ignorant, I have just begun to understand the inner workings
of the windows OS (were working in Linux). Were not taught any IT in my CS
program. I'm getting somewhat proficient at program design and
implementation but the knowledge of maintenance operations is slow coming.


Charles Thomas



Here is the entire documentation:


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ForteT for JavaT Release 2.0
for Windows Installation
Read the following documentation before you install ForteT for JavaT Release
2.0 from the CD.

Have you reviewed the ForteT for JavaT Release 2.0 License Agreement?

You must have Java tm 2 SDK, Standard Edition, v. 1.3 installed on your
system in order to install and run Forte for Java.


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Java Documentation:
The Java 2 SDK documentation can be downloaded as a zip file for Windows at:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs.html
The installation instructions for the documentation may be found at:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/install-docs.html
If you want access to the Java 2 SDK documentation from inside Forte for
Java, download, install and mount this documentation as a file system in the
IDE.

To mount the Java documentation as a file system within Forte for Java,
(after installing Forte for Java):

Open the Forte for Java Explorer window: View > Explorer.


Click the Javadoc tab at the bottom of the Explorer window.


Right-click the Javadoc node within the Explorer window.


Select Mount Directory from the pop-up menu.


Browse to the directory where you installed the documentation.
C:/jdk1.3/docs
and highlight it by a single-click.


Click Mount.
The documentation will now be accessible from within the IDE via the Javadoc
tab in the Explorer window.



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Single User Windows NT/2000 Platforms
1. Double click installation file:

forte_ce_2.exe


The Forte for Java welcome screen will appear.


Click Next to continue.

2. Click Yes to agree to the license terms and continue installation.


3. Enter you name and the name of you company, then click Next.

(You may enter "self" instead of a company name).

4. Accept the default installation directory, then click Next.


5. A menu of all Java Virtual Machines installed on your system appears.

Select JDK 1.3, then click Next.

6. Select the radio button to associate .java files with Forte for Java,
then click Next.

This will cause Forte for Java to launch automatically when you double-click
a .java file.

7. Review your installation choices. Click Next to continue.


8. Select the Release Notes checkbox if you wish to read the release notes
after installation.


9. Click Finish to complete the installation.


10A. You may now launch Forte for Java either from the new desktop shortcut
or from the Forte for Java item on the Windows Start menu.


10B. You may also launch Forte for Java from the command line:

C:\> runide.exe


Note: runide.exe ignores the value of the CLASSPATH environment variable.
This affects access to databases from Forte for Java. If you run Forte for
Java without the CLASSPATH variable, you will have to manually add database
drive files to


/libext.
10C. You may launch Forte for Java from the command line with the CLASSPATH
variable (using the -cp switch):

c:\> runide.exe -cp${CLASSPATH}


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Uninstalling Forte for Java
1. Run the installer program.

2. Bring up the File Deletion Confirmation window.

3. Click OK to uninstall Forte for Java.



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Single User via Java .class file (for all Windows platforms)

1. Save the Java .class file from the CD to a directory onyour personal
computer.

2. Change your working directory to the directory where the Java .class file
is located.

Note: If you have a CLASSPATH set, and it does not include the current
directory, add the current directory to your existing CLASSPATH.

If you do not have a CLASSPATH set, skip the next step.

(To check whether you have a CLASSPATH currently set, type set at a command
prompt. If you see CLASSPATH listed, you have a CLASSPATH setting.)

3. To add the current directory to your CLASSPATH on a Windows machine,
type

set CLASSPATH=.;%CLASSPATH%
4. Type the following command:

java forte_ce_2.class
Note: This assumes that you have JDK 1.3 in your path. If you do not, you
must specify the full path to the Java Interpreter executable:

C: \TEMP>C:\jdk1.3\bin\java forte_ce_2.class
This initiates the installation routine.

5.Work through the dialog boxes to complete the installation.

6. Once complete, use the runide script in your installation directory to
launch Forte for Java.

7A. You may launch Forte for Java from the new desktop shortcut.

7B. You may launch Forte for Java from the Windows Start menu.

7C. You may launch Forte for Java from the command line:

c:/> runide.exe
Note: runide.exe ignores the value of the CLASSPATH environment variable.
This affects access to databases from Forte for Java. If you run Forte for
Java without the CLASSPATH variable, you will have to manually add database
drive files to

/libext.
7D. You may launch Forte for Java from the command line with the CLASSPATH
variable (using the -cp switch):

c:\> runide.exe -cp${CLASSPATH}


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Uninstalling Preceeding Forte for Java
1. Run the uninstall.class located in /forte4j.

2. Follow the dialog boxes to complete the uninstall.



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Mounting a JAR or ZIP file as a Javadoc filesystems in the IDE
To mount a JAR or ZIP file (without running unzip or jar commands) as a
Javadoc filesystem:

1. Open the Explorer window in the IDE.

2. Click the Javadoc tab on the bottom of the Explorer window.

3. Right-click the Javadoc node and select Mount JAR.

4. Browse to the JAR or ZIP file and select it by a single-click.

5. Click Mount.

If the IDE does not find Javadoc index files, you will be asked if you
wish to continue.

6. Click Yes to continue.

The documentation will now be available via the Javadoc tab.


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Deleting a Project through the Operating System
1. In the IDE's installation directory, navigate to the system/project
delete the directory that has the project you want to delete.

2. Delete the project.last file in the system directory.

WARNING: If you use this method while the IDE is running, you risk deleting
the currently opened project.



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Deleting a Project through the IDE
1. Choose Project | Settings from the main window.

2. In the Project | Settings window,

expand the Filesystems Settings node.


Choose the Default System node.
3. Set the Hidden property to False.

The Default System filesystem will be displayed in the Explorer.
4. In the Explorer:

expand the Default System node


expand the Projects node


select the project you want to delete.
5. Under Default System / Projects

right-click the project you want to delete.
6. Choose Delete from the contextual menu.

The default project cannot be deleted.
7. In the Project Settings window

set the Hidden property for the default System filesystem back to True.
WARNING: The Default System filesystem consists of files that the IDE itself
uses. You should keep this filesystem hidden so that you do not accidently
change or remove these files.



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Installation Subdirectories
/beans contains JavBeansT components installed in Forte for Java.
/bin includes the Forte for Java launchers the ide.cfg file on Windows
installations addtopath.bat, which is used by the batch file startup.
/Development the directory mounted by default in Filesystems. Objects you
create in Forte for Java will be saved here unless you mount other
directories and use them.
/docs contains Forte for Java documentation.
/javadoc the directory mounted by default in Forte for Java javadoc
repository. Javadoc documentation that you create in Forte for Java will be
stored here.
/lib contains JAR files that comprise the IDE's core implementation and the
open APIs.
/lib/ext contains extensions to the IDE for other functionality such as
JavaHelp
Absolute Layout
javac
regular expressions.



/lib/patch any JAR or ZIP files included in this folder will be
automatically included at the beginning of the IDE's startup class path; it
will be a patch against the core.
/modules any JAR file in this folder is an IDE module.
/modules/ext contains libraries used by the modules.
/sources contains sources for libraries which may be redistributed with user
applications.
/system includes files and directories used by the IDE for special purposes.
It includes
ide.log, provides information useful when requesting technical support,
project.basic, and
project.last, both of which contain information on Forte for Java projects.


It is mounted as a hidden file system.
/system/actions contains actions that appear in Global Options under
Actions.
/system/applet contains policy file for debugging applets.
/system/parserDB holds databases that are used for Java code completion and
other Editor functions.
/system/startup holds classes that are run at IDE startup.
/temp



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Install ForteT for JavaT Release 2.0 from the CD

IMPORTANT: When prompted by your browser please choose 'Run this program
from its current location', click 'OK' and follow the instructions as they
appear on screen.

It is also possible to install the software directly from the CD. The
installer (forte_ce_2.exe) is located in the software-win/forte/ directory
on the root level of this CD-ROM.

For the latest information on ForteT for JavaT please visit...
http://www.sun.com/forte/


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Additional ForteT for JavaT Information
Free Online Training:
Free online online for ForteT for JavaT is located at
http://www.sun.com/forte/ffj/resourc....html#training.


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If you can see the file what happens when you try to delete it?

Did you try both of those removal programs that I posted?

I see that Forte for Java, Release 2.0, Community Edition installs in
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Can you delete forte4j ?

If not what error do you get?

Have you tried deleting forte4j with either:

http://www.gibinsoft.net/gipoutils/bin/moveonb.exe

Or:

http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelF...lesInstall.zip


Did you find that program in and delete it in this registry entry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Uninstall

Jephree:

I already had deleted this file from windows explorer and did a search of the C drive to make sure forte4j wasn't anywhere else and the only returned result was the registry entry backup in regseeker.

Yes, I have already removed the file from the registry also. Although I don't know what the registry entry for jasc is for and was apprehensive to delete it.

Am I correct in assuming that when I removed the SDK I accidentally removed the pointer to the address of this forte for Java file and that's why I can't delete it?

Have you reviewed the readme doc I pasted into the last thread? If I read the doc correctly, I have to uninstall this app. with a supplied uninstaller but I don't know where it is.

Charles Thomas

Jephree:

I think I may have fixed the problem. I went back and used the JRTwine and search utilities to which you had referred me. I found the last reference to the forte for Java file in the i386 file using the ccleaner utility. I had to specify hidden files and then I deleted it. I went back and looked in the add/remove programs window and it looks like it is gone. I'll let you know if the reinstallation is successful.

Thanks so much,

Charles Thomas

Jephree:

I reinstalled the software and it looks like there is a problem. It says that runide.exe is not a valid command in win32. I think that since this app. needs to have an active internet connection to its companion site which has moved that this is causing the problem.

This is what I found at the site:

This is the old home page for the NetBeans APIs. Please now use platform.netbeans.org!

It then asked me if I wanted to fix the problem or delete and I chose fix but this didn't help.

I had to reinstall all the software to install the forte again since it is dependent. I have left the software on the computer hoping that I can fix this problem.

I removed and reinstalled the software again and I think I was right about the invalid web sight. This time it said:

Setup failed to run installation: The remote procedure call failed.

Charles Thomas