looking-for.cc

  1. #1
    joe
    joe is offline Newbie

    looking-for.cc

    I have found this and cant get rid of it, can you help? Here is the HijacjThis log.

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
    Scan saved at 19:24:56, on 23/08/2004
    Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\appxi.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\gsicon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\dslagent.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\atlfm32.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\Application Data\cscd.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\zckz.exe
    C:\Program Files\BT Broadband\Help\bin\mpbtn.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\My Documents\hijackthis.exe

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,HomeOldSP = about:blank
    R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {064CBB14-4C98-249C-A038-1AE69061C429} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\mshv.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GSICONEXE] gsicon.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DSLAGENTEXE] dslagent.exe USB
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [atlfm32.exe] C:\WINDOWS\atlfm32.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [biakbqhxro] C:\WINDOWS\System32\aahuih.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BullsEye Network] C:\Program Files\BullsEye Network\bin\bargains.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Iatl] C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\Application Data\cscd.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Mlfvkars] C:\WINDOWS\System32\zckz.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: BT Broadband Help.lnk = C:\Program Files\BT Broadband\Help\bin\matcli.exe
    O9 - Extra button: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.05p.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.blazefind.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.clickspring.net
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.flingstone.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.mt-download.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.my-internet.info
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.scoobidoo.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.searchbarcash.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.searchmiracle.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.slotch.com
    O16 - DPF: v2cab - http://searchmiracle.com/cab/v2cab.cab
    O16 - DPF: {15589FA1-C456-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A} - http://www.nuker.com/products/swn200...rInstaller.exe
    O16 - DPF: {386A771C-E96A-421F-8BA7-32F1B706892F} (Installer Class) - http://www.xxxtoolbar.com/ist/softwa...06_regular.cab
    O16 - DPF: {4E62C4DE-627D-4604-B157-4B7D6B09F02E} (AccountTracking Profile Manager Class) - https://moneymanager.egg.com/Pinsafe...nttracking.cab
    O16 - DPF: {FFFF0003-0001-101A-A3C9-08002B23E0CC} - http://direct.data-line.us/gbn298.exe
    O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{E7520A8E-652C-47CB-8251-39B1661B2B31}: NameServer = 194.72.9.34 194.74.65.68

    Thanks
    Joe

  2. #2
    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    Looks like you've got the CoolWebSearch trojan. It's very common - I had it myself a few weeks ago until the guys in the Security message board sorted it out for me.

    Run HiJackThis again and place a check next to the following items to fix them:

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,HomeOldSP = about:blank

    O16 - DPF: {386A771C-E96A-421F-8BA7-32F1B706892F} (Installer Class) - http://www.xxxtoolbar.com/ist/softwa...06_regular.cab

    Reboot and run HijackThis again, post a fresh log and let us know if you still have the problem.

  3. #3
    joe
    joe is offline Newbie
    Here is the new log but I still seem to have the same problems. Home Search appears as my homepage and other random searches download without prompt.

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
    Scan saved at 06:35:57, on 24/08/2004
    Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\appxi.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\gsicon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\dslagent.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\atlfm32.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\Application Data\cscd.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\zckz.exe
    C:\Program Files\BT Broadband\Help\bin\mpbtn.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\My Documents\hijackthis.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe

    R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {064CBB14-4C98-249C-A038-1AE69061C429} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\mshv.dll
    O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GSICONEXE] gsicon.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DSLAGENTEXE] dslagent.exe USB
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [atlfm32.exe] C:\WINDOWS\atlfm32.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [biakbqhxro] C:\WINDOWS\System32\aahuih.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BullsEye Network] C:\Program Files\BullsEye Network\bin\bargains.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Iatl] C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\Application Data\cscd.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Mlfvkars] C:\WINDOWS\System32\zckz.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: BT Broadband Help.lnk = C:\Program Files\BT Broadband\Help\bin\matcli.exe
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
    O9 - Extra button: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.05p.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.blazefind.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.clickspring.net
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.flingstone.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.mt-download.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.my-internet.info
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.scoobidoo.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.searchbarcash.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.searchmiracle.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.slotch.com
    O16 - DPF: v2cab - http://searchmiracle.com/cab/v2cab.cab
    O16 - DPF: {15589FA1-C456-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A} - http://www.nuker.com/products/swn200...rInstaller.exe
    O16 - DPF: {4E62C4DE-627D-4604-B157-4B7D6B09F02E} (AccountTracking Profile Manager Class) - https://moneymanager.egg.com/Pinsafe...nttracking.cab
    O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61} (HouseCall Control) - http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2...ll/xscan53.cab
    O16 - DPF: {FFFF0003-0001-101A-A3C9-08002B23E0CC} - http://direct.data-line.us/gbn298.exe
    O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{E7520A8E-652C-47CB-8251-39B1661B2B31}: NameServer = 194.72.9.34 194.74.65.68

    Thank you for the help and advice.
    Joe

  4. #4
    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    Do you know what this is?
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Mlfvkars] C:\WINDOWS\System32\zckz.exe

    I've done a web search but can't find any reference to that executable file that's being loaded each time you start up.

  5. #5
    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    Run HiJackThis again and place an entry next to the following items to remove them:

    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.05p.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.blazefind.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.flingstone.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.mt-download.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.my-internet.info
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.searchbarcash.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.searchmiracle.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: *.slotch.com

    They are either porn sites, search engine sites that you probably don't want to be using or they are sites that don't appear to work anyway - all probably added to Trusted Zones by the trojan and malware that you've picked up.

  6. #6
    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    And do you know what these are? They are also loading up executable files each time your computer starts up but I can't find any reference to them on the 'net:

    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [atlfm32.exe] C:\WINDOWS\atlfm32.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [biakbqhxro] C:\WINDOWS\System32\aahuih.exe

  7. #7
    joe
    joe is offline Newbie
    I have no idea what they are. I still have this rubbish Home Search on my PC. They seem to go and then reinstall themselves. I will post the log again. I do appreciate all the help.

    Joe

  8. #8
    joe
    joe is offline Newbie
    The log.

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
    Scan saved at 03:12:43, on 25/08/2004
    Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\gsicon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\dslagent.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\addhb.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\Application Data\cscd.exe
    C:\Program Files\BT Broadband\Help\bin\mpbtn.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\appxi.exe
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\My Documents\hijackthis.exe

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {064CBB14-4C98-249C-A038-1AE69061C429} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\mshv.dll
    O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {BB007F00-66B3-C207-453B-7CE8EDD79624} - C:\WINDOWS\syspz32.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GSICONEXE] gsicon.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DSLAGENTEXE] dslagent.exe USB
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [addhb.exe] C:\WINDOWS\addhb.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Iatl] C:\Documents and Settings\Emma Burt\Application Data\cscd.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: BT Broadband Help.lnk = C:\Program Files\BT Broadband\Help\bin\matcli.exe
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
    O16 - DPF: v2cab - http://searchmiracle.com/cab/v2cab.cab
    O16 - DPF: {4E62C4DE-627D-4604-B157-4B7D6B09F02E} (AccountTracking Profile Manager Class) - https://moneymanager.egg.com/Pinsafe...nttracking.cab
    O16 - DPF: {FFFF0003-0001-101A-A3C9-08002B23E0CC} - http://direct.data-line.us/gbn298.exe
    O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{E7520A8E-652C-47CB-8251-39B1661B2B31}: NameServer = 194.72.9.34 194.74.65.68

    thank you,
    Joe

  9. #9
    jen.eric is offline Valued Member
    I think i had something similar to this last week. I ended up on a site while trying to look for a free download of an mp3 tool i wanted. My home page default changed to www.somethingsearch.com and the homepage option in IE options became greyed-out and i got multi-pop-ups. I first of all ran Hijack this and deleted all the entries that i couldnt relate to the trusted apps on my system, and deleted anything that contained part of a web address that i didnt recognise. I then ran spy-bot and deleted everything that didnt seem important. i then stopped any processes that seemed alien. then i deleted a folder from my Program Files folder that i didnt recognise (if your not sure, copy and paste the .exe name into goodle and search. read through other forums to see if your process relates to spy/adware. After all this i emptyed the recycle bin.
    I noticed that my home page now said 'about:blank' and that i could not change this. after lots of searching about, i found that in spybot there is an option that allows you to lock your home page!! the spyware changes the home page but doesnt take the lock off. to do this, open spybot, go to 'immunize' and at the bottom youll see 'Lock IE start page settings against user changes'. you need to untick this, then via control panel go to 'internet options' and change your home page.
    i then did a bin empty, and did the complete same process in-case i missed anything.
    Not the most perfect way, but its worked for me everytime. If your not sure, check what you see either using google or following the path, and if your still not sure, do as youve been doing.

  10. #10
    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    Sounds like good advice Jen. When I had the CoolWebSearch trojan, I had to use a similar process. Just as you said Joe, mine kept coming back after each reboot but, after running this full ritual a couple of times a day for a few days, it seemed to give up and I've been OK since then!

    1. Run HiJackThis and remove the following entries:

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = res://C:\WINDOWS\xzcko.dll/sp.html#29126
    R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing

    2. Run Spybot Search & Destroy and let it do whatever it wants.

    3. I also ran Adaware 6 and let it delete everything that it found.

    Let us know how you get on with that Joe

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