Yes I like that too already have used up my free trial though. I did do one of those free look but pay to fix things, it was zilla stop of something any way came up and said I had a defender type trojan, so where shall I go from here?

Well well I ran a spybot scan and found the rogue! I downloaded error smart some time ago to evaluate didn't really like it so deleted it, but could not get it to go from my list in add and remove. Well spybot can't remove it either so do you have a suggestion for me to try?

So you have a Trojan I think you would best to re-post this in the "Spyware, Adware, Viruses and HijackThis Logs " threads as there is an expert on security and and viruses etc, and he will be better to advise you than me as this is a specialist subject and I am not qualified to answer and to be perfectly honest if I had a virus I couldent get rid of with my own anti virus software he is who I would turn to.

Thank you I will do that.

Good luck hope it all goes well