Vista Review

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨

    Re: Vista Review

    Vista Launch Points to Microsoft Changes

    Here comes a new Windows operating system from Microsoft Corp. Long delayed, it's the first in several years, so the company plans an enormous marketing campaign to tout the software as a way to get more out of computers.

    But Microsoft's legion of detractors roll their eyes, calling the new Windows a weak imitator of other operating systems. Meanwhile, technology analysts wonder whether Microsoft's dominance is nearing an end, since programs coming over the Internet are emerging as a more powerful force in computing than software tied to individual desktops.


    Ah, those were the days. Who can forget the release of Windows 95?

    That's right: While the description above applies to the new Windows Vista operating system hitting stores Jan. 30, it also was the landscape 11 1/2 years ago, when Microsoft came out with Windows 95 and ended up cementing its position in the PC industry.
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4483280.html


  2. #12
    Kaistar is offline Dedicated Member
    ha! just admit that Vista ain't the big boat no more. lol. if there's a decent open source os... i'd definitely change to that instead of Vista man.

    microsoft needs to grow up. instead of still playing "dress up".

    someone invent a hologram OS please...? lolll...

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    Beyond Vista

    time for enthusiasts to start looking forward to Vienna – Microsoft's next operating system

    This article appears in the March 07 issue of PC Advisor , onsale now in all good newsagents.

    It all starts with vague rumblings of a cryptically codenamed operating system upgrade. Next come multiple beta versions, repeated delays, disappearing features and other indications of altered plans. Eventually, there's a real, boxed product available for people to buy.

    We speak, of course, of the amazingly predictable process that results in each edition of Windows. Now that arguably the most important product in Microsoft's history has launched, you may be forgiven for thinking you'll have a few years to wait until the hype surrounding its successor starts to surface. But you'd be wrong. Vienna – the code name for the OS that will replace Vista – is already in the works. And it could be with us sooner than you'd think.

    Microsoft plans to increase the frequency with which it launches desktop OSes, hoping that Vienna will be ready to roll in three years' time. And despite Vista's long development process, this might not be overly ambitious. You may have imagined that it's taken Microsoft the full five years since Windows XP's launch to get Vista ready for release, but the real development work took only around two years, according to the head of the company.

    "Time is sort of a funny thing. You need to give new technologies time to incubate before you try to bring them together," Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer said at Vista's product launch. "Let each [technology] come to market individually and then do the integration."

    Microsoft spent the first two years of its Vista-development process building a variety of new technologies and then struggled to integrate them, according to Ballmer. The third year went smoothly as Microsoft's developers focused their efforts on the Windows XP Service Pack 2, with some of that technology ultimately ending up in Vista, not XP. The bulk of what has now been released as Vista has been put together since 2004, Ballmer said. He estimates that by the end of January, Microsoft will have spent "hundreds of millions of dollars" on marketing Vista and Office 2007.

    However, he was quick to add that the company won't rest on its laurels. In Vienna, Microsoft will look to do more to support the major changes already under way in hardware – notably the shift from single- to multicore processors and improvements in network infrastructure.

    With its next operating system, Microsoft needs to take into account the move from software to software-as-a-service or, as Ballmer said, "software plus service". Users can expect to see "a lot more service enablement".

    Windows Vienna user requirements
    But enough about what Ballmer wants out of Vienna – what about what users want? When the operating system ships, we're hoping it has a number of things that Windows Vista – at least in its initial form – doesn't have.

    We'd like to see real interface innovation. While it's fair to say that Vista's look, feel and functionality are advances from Windows XP, they don't introduce much in the way of big ideas – or, for that matter, ones that Apple's Mac OS X hasn't sported for a version or two.

    Office 2007, which is arriving at the same time as Windows Vista, proves that Microsoft can retool an interface to be both radically different and meaningfully better. Rumour has it that Vienna may have a completely new look. Please, Microsoft, get the people who were responsible for Office 2007 involved.

    Furthermore, the appearance of Vista's bundled applications could do with a bit of consistency. As you'll see on page 81, sometimes Vista helpfully gives different tools similar interfaces – Windows Photo Gallery and Windows Media Player are a matched pair – but the same can't be said for many of the other applications. Overall, it's the software equivalent of a huge country made up of municipalities with varying rules and regulations about matters such as menus and help systems. Mac OS X shows far more discipline. And so should Vienna.

    Online operation
    We'd like to see the fruits of Microsoft's push to make its operating system work on the web. So far, Microsoft's Windows Live offerings have little in common with the OS except a name. Why can't Windows make using online storage as simple as working with a local disk? Shouldn't you be able to sync multiple copies of the OS between PCs across the net? Is there any good reason why Microsoft couldn't provide browser-based access to at least some of Windows' features? There are glimmers of such concepts in Vista, but real breakthroughs are yet to come.

    Finally, there's a case for Vienna having fewer (but better) bundled applications. Given Windows' security record, the addition of Windows Defender isn't just logical, it's long overdue. But does Windows need a photo organiser or movie editor? Nothing in Photo Gallery or Movie Maker convinces us that it does – and Microsoft has a history of adding stuff, then letting it fester.

    How excited are you about Windows Vista – and what's on your wish list for future versions of the operating system? Visit PC Advisor's Windows Vista forum Windows Vista forum and join the debate.

    This article appears as part of our comprehensive guide to Windows Vista in the March 07 issue of PC Advisor, available now in all good newsagents. Click here to visit our dedicated Windows Vista forum.

    Posted by: PC Advisor staff
    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/blogs/ind...d=601&blogid=4

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    Kaistar is offline Dedicated Member
    yeah i've heard of Vienna as well. they say they wanna change how the desktop looks like and probably remove taskbars and such. instead they plan to integrate better voice commands and lesser keyboard and mouse usage i think?

    i find it kinda... amusing though. Vista just got out and already Vienna is in the horizon.

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    Kazna3 is offline Senior Member
    This is just a nightmare for anyone whose knowledgeable or interested in computers. I don't understand why MS is never stopped in its tracks.. its not more powerful than any western country! But yeah. heck, it was that word and its echo's the west developed called "freedom" which stirs the pot of misery till this day -- freedom at your own liking with anything sane or totally barbaric; judged at ones own reckoning in terms of their authority given to judge deplorable behavior. A world which revolves around money and luxury at the expense of anyone else is barbaric.

    Here's some of what I know about Vista.

    Vista was developed to totally bury EA, Linux, Firefox, Adobe and other browser, OS, game, GPU, PDF, multimedia and photo editing manufacturers.

    Here's the 4 Vista versions and their comparison:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/default.mspx

    1: Its illegal to change from one system to another. If you upgraded the hardware you installed (any) Vista on, you will have to buy another license for it even if its retail unless it be first time.

    In other words, once a retail copy of Vista is installed on a PC it can be moved to another system only once.

    "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the "licensed device,"

    " 1) failure of a validation check results in the loss of access to specific features; and 2) an increase in our warranty period from 90 days to 1 year, which brings Windows in line with most other Microsoft products,"

    "The software will from time to time validate the software, update or require download of the validation feature of the software,"

    "If after a validation check, the software is found not to be properly licensed, the functionality of the software may be affected."

    Vista's new anti-piracy technologies is disgusting. Under the new program, a copy of Vista that's judged to be in violation of its license or is counterfeit is disabled after a set period, leaving the user access only to the default Web browser, and then only for an hour at a time

    It aims at raking money by stealing personal rights.

    OEM Vista is totally bound onto the hardware it came with. There will also be issues for troubleshooting as there is a coding level difference in contents of Retail and OEM.

    In Vista, security software may not function properly at all. Possibly the kernel may be protected which could prevent AV and other on-access monitors from intercepting file access. The nefarious Blue Pill rootkit capable of totally concealing malicious activity under Vista, is still not protected against. In the same way security software companies are trying to sue MS as they provided no coding level information required for 3rd parties to develop security software thus leaving all the market intact in their own hands. They then developed their own security software to fulfill those needs.

    Firefox 2.0.0.1 has a total of 34 Firefox bugs related to Windows Vista at Bugzilla database and 20 of which remain unfixed (basically not compatible). Several are related to Vista's parental control features aswell as Firefox not being able to be set as the default browser in Vista. Updates may also fail if the application is installed to a directory other than the default. Thunderbird also has the same bug of not being able to act as Vista's default e-mail client as well as many others.

    Your monitor, applications, games, printer, and other peripherals will most likely require new software (drivers) in order to work with Vista; the older the device, the less likely a new driver will become available

    Vista is only available on DVD.


    These are some of MS's nefarious flaws.

  6. #16
    Kaistar is offline Dedicated Member
    now the Firefox issue is new to me. but the Monitor, APps, Games, Printers and even the License issue is talked about in the first page. gosh... imagine my frustration when i first found out.

    no more bundled drivers? as if nVidia is gonna produce up-to-date drivers for every darn card they produce specifically.

    and what about computer enthusiasts? they upgrade their parts often. even i do!

    what happen to the XP version of the license where it can be moved for unlimited counts as long as the original is removed? the retail version i mean. maannn... Vista is soooo screwing life up.

    DirectX10 is the only thing i'm worried about. i want that!!!

  7. #17
    Kazna3 is offline Senior Member
    [duplicatë] it never showed up before
    Last edited by Kazna3; 21-01-2007 at 12:50 PM.

  8. #18
    Kazna3 is offline Senior Member
    Its with all Mozilla products and many other software. These are just the highlights and how I know is through the companies and their developers themselves.

    I've read many similar articles as such since November and even when Beta 2 was released. As its a common trait; MS will not leave most good features from the Beta builds in the final release.

    I don't expect there will be any changes in this department either sadly

  9. #19
    Kaistar is offline Dedicated Member
    depressing news. and that's an understatement man

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