talk about weird....all of a sudden the computer is running quicker than it ever has...wonder if it is my dial up service causing issues and now not so many people are on it....i still see virtual memory running low occasionally, but willing to bet it is all my beloved games I keep on this computer...guess I need to get one of my other computers put together and designate for games only...lets see how it goes for the next few days....and Neal...thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated.