There was no way after formatting my HD that i could place the cabs on my HD and get them to open up at all cause i tryed that also

Some of the problems, as I see it, is miss communication. In the above quote there are several ways for me to interpret just what you are saying, and if I do it wrong, it will lead use no where.

The below must be done only on the non working 98 computer , not on the XP comp or any other computers, as with DOS commands giving in prior post. Of course if you need to download a program to test memory, ect that would need a working computer.

You say the "CABS" , if you are copying only the WIN98xxx.cab files it will not work, you must copy all the files from cd WIN98 folder (the cd must be a MicroSoft CD and not a restore cd ) to a folder on the hdd , with DOS command copy *.*. If that is what you did on the non operating computer , with no errors doing copying, and SETUP will still stop, then a problem with the hdd /memory /mother board / power suppply are likely. (The reason to copy all files to hdd and install from there it removes the cd or cd drive as the reason for failure.)


I will still suggest running the memory and hdd tests.

Originally Posted by Top

Some of the problems, as I see it, is miss communication. In the above quote there are several ways for me to interpret just what you are saying, and if I do it wrong, it will lead use no where.

The below must be done only on the non working 98 computer , not on the XP comp or any other computers, as with DOS commands giving in prior post. Of course if you need to download a program to test memory, ect that would need a working computer.

You say the "CABS" , if you are copying only the WIN98xxx.cab files it will not work, you must copy all the files from cd WIN98 folder (the cd must be a MicroSoft CD and not a restore cd ) to a folder on the hdd , with DOS command copy *.*. If that is what you did on the non operating computer , with no errors doing copying, and SETUP will still stop, then a problem with the hdd /memory /mother board / power suppply are likely. (The reason to copy all files to hdd and install from there it removes the cd or cd drive as the reason for failure.)


I will still suggest running the memory and hdd tests.

Thanks I will find something to run a test on my memory and HD today and run it and see but if it shows up alright then i'm stuck again as i see it. Hope you had a nive Father's Day today but none of my kids even showed up to see me and that's a shame but i will start looking right now for a few programs to do this.

JHB1

Keep your chin up. TOP has some great ideas for you to be checking but I think he is displaying a typical techy reaction to someone who is not as savvy as they are. Don't take his abruptiveness as an indication of everyone who is prepared and happy to help people in your situation. I worked as a tech support for many years and have been quite offended by his replies to you.

Don't take what he has said to heart and please keep us all posted as to where you are with your problem. I'm sure someone here will help you with this... after all, wasn't that why this site was created???

Best of luck with a resolution to your problem.

Sorry to be gone for so long.

I know Top has covered this in his # 16 post (Thanks Top), but I (finally!!) just found this again. (Post # 2, HARD DISK sub heading.) It may add to Top's posting.

Use any boot floppy you choose. No matter which boot floppy you use, both posts presuppose that the hard disk has been set up properly with fdisk and a primary, active, FAT32 partition exists, ready for formatting.

Using the xcopy utility helps make things a bit simpler. Hopefully using the information from the two posts, success can be achieved.

Originally Posted by Dan Penny

Sorry to be gone for so long.

I know Top has covered this in his # 16 post (Thanks Top), but I (finally!!) just found this again. (Post # 2, HARD DISK sub heading.) It may add to Top's posting.

Use any boot floppy you choose. No matter which boot floppy you use, both posts presuppose that the hard disk has been set up properly with fdisk and a primary, active, FAT32 partition exists, ready for formatting.

Using the xcopy utility helps make things a bit simpler. Hopefully using the information from the two posts, success can be achieved.

I want to think you all who tryed to help me get 98se installed but i have a few things to say. I used several boot floppy disks i borrowed, used nortons
program i was told to use as well and changed my setting to default also and i done that last night for 4 hours and i used killdisk and Seagate HD Utilites the maker of my HDD and not one bit of luck there either. I used 4 windows 98cd's that belong to me and i borrowed my son's 98se disk and it wouldn't even install and every try i done it would just copy 6% of the files and then just set there. I ran a check on my HD and it came back very good like new and even on my cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-rom and dvd/r/rw drices as well and nothing is wrong with none of them. Like i said before i think i have installed 98SE on computers for over 8 years now with no problem from cd's cause i use to have them on floppys back when i started using 98se from 95 and i have built 13 computer in the last 5 years for people and 10 out of the 13 wanted 98se installed and nothing happen like this before so now i really do not know where to start at again. I'm going to try and get help from Seagate if they will answer my questions and if they don't then try some places else from another company that makes HDD'S. I know you people knows what you are talking about and i want to think you for it i do and for all of yuo Fathers out there that may have read the questions and answers on this fourm, i hope your children remembered you yesterday and not like mine, forgot me but i guess it's better that way and for all keep up the good work in helping people who really needs it like i do. Thanks again and i will check back.:nervous:
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jhb1,

With all the information which has transpired back and forth I believe the problem lies with;

1) Faulty hardware (possibly the motherboard or RAM has gone bad.) The "6% copy then fail" is indicative of a RAM problem.

2) The hard disk isn't set up correctly with fdisk.


If you'd like to give it one more try, here are two tools which should eliminate the above two possibilities.

You could try testing the RAM with MemTest86+ from http://www.memtest.org/

Use the appropriate downloaded file >>>( http://www.memtest.org/download/1.70....70.floppy.zip ) <<< to create a floppy bootdisk.

On a working 98 machine, unzip the files to an empty directory and (with a floppy in your drive) run the install.bat file. When complete, you won't see any files on the floppy, but they are there. Just boot the machine with this floppy and run it as long as you can afford to. If there are errors, run it on one memory module at a time to narrow down the possibilities. (ie; Remove all but one module.) You may have to set your bios boot device sequence to boot from the floppy (or CDROM) drive first.

(Going back and re-reading the posts, I see Top has suggested this as well, just with a different program. I'd use both just to be sure the RAM is OK.)

Here's a Microsoft article which gives step by step instructions for creating a FAT32 partition. I'd suggest printing it and following it through the exercise:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;255867

Sorry to hear you were left alone on Fathers Day. Happy Fathers Day! :yippee: Maybe getting this system up and running would help matters.

You state in first post that XP OME was installed, did it install and run good ? Or did XP have problems right before trying to go back to 98 ?

Besides a possible memory problem , could be a heat problem or power supply.

Might see if XP would install again but use the hdd as is with the FAT32 partition not NTFS. If it worked that should rule out heat or power supply but not memory. Would also say the mother board/cpu/IDE cable/hdd should not be the problem.

IF you do not want to try XP again (I can understand way you might not want to) , might try a live Linux cd. With the live Linux there is no hdd install, it runs off of the cd. http://www.knoppix.net/get.php
There are other live linux besides Knoppix.

Altho with computers one can never rule anything out, as soon as one does , its what bad.

Sometimes one's children just get to busy with there problems to remember their parents, even on Fathers Day and/or Mother Day.

Originally Posted by Top

You state in first post that XP OME was installed, did it install and run good ? Or did XP have problems right before trying to go back to 98 ?

Besides a possible memory problem , could be a heat problem or power supply.

Might see if XP would install again but use the hdd as is with the FAT32 partition not NTFS. If it worked that should rule out heat or power supply but not memory. Would also say the mother board/cpu/IDE cable/hdd should not be the problem.

IF you do not want to try XP again (I can understand way you might not want to) , might try a live Linux cd. With the live Linux there is no hdd install, it runs off of the cd. http://www.knoppix.net/get.php
There are other live linux besides Knoppix.

Altho with computers one can never rule anything out, as soon as one does , its what bad.

Sometimes one's children just get to busy with there problems to remember their parents, even on Fathers Day and/or Mother Day.

I have tried to install 98SE so much over the last few months i'm sick of trying but i do want it back. No it's a fat 32 and i have no problem what so ever installing XP at all. Why i really need my 98SE is cause i make a lot of back up of my DVD movies for one thing and on 98SE they turn out just right but with XP, they turn out bad a lot and the sound isn't up to standards cause when they speak and you see the mouth move no sound untill a minute later and sometimes they talk before there mouth opens and it never did that with 98 and like i said before i HATE XP. About Father's day i wasn't worried at all and some kids doesn't even think to even say happy fathers day and just like my birthday last month, it was the same but when it comes to theirs they let you know about it right off the bat but one day they will remember me. Thanks a lot and in the morning i will try the site and see what it will do about the memory and the other site also if i'm still alive.

Originally Posted by jhb1

I have tried to install 98SE so much over the last few months i'm sick of trying but i do want it back. No it's a fat 32 and i have no problem what so ever installing XP at all. Why i really need my 98SE is cause i make a lot of back up of my DVD movies for one thing and on 98SE they turn out just right but with XP, they turn out bad a lot and the sound isn't up to standards cause when they speak and you see the mouth move no sound untill a minute later and sometimes they talk before there mouth opens and it never did that with 98 and like i said before i HATE XP. About Father's day i wasn't worried at all and some kids doesn't even think to even say happy fathers day and just like my birthday last month, it was the same but when it comes to theirs they let you know about it right off the bat but one day they will remember me. Thanks a lot and in the morning i will try the site and see what it will do about the memory and the other site also if i'm still alive.

I just ran a memory test on here and all passed and i ran it std and ext so nothing is wrong with my HDD, MEM, PS, CABLES, CPU, MB, DVD AND CD DRIVES and the windows 98se cd's are new but the xp is older than the 98se. So now i'm waiting on Seagate to reply back to see if they can tell me something. Thanks for all the help but if anyone can at lease try to give me another thing to try i will but i hope i don't run out of dvd's after all this.

What application are you using to create the DVDs on XP? Maybe someone on here could help you repair this app or recommend a better one then maybe 98 won't be needed...

Just a thought.