Disk defragmentation problem

  1. #1
    lvon98 is offline Valued Member

    Disk defragmentation problem

    I operate Windows Millenium and lately have been having problems with disk defragmentation. Word of caution: I am not a techie, so please bear with me and keep explanations and elements of solution to a language which I can understand .

    I usually defragment my disk at least once a month and until recently, the process went rather smoothly and didn't take too much time. A couple months ago, it began to really drag on in the time my system took to 'Check for errors' before informing me some 10 minutes later that it had found errors, which I should correct with ScanDisk before it could proceed. Delays there as well: the system had to restart the scanning process several times before it could be completed and the errors fixed. I then returned to Disk Defragmentation, waited several minutes for the system to still check for errors before it started defragmenting in earnest. Sometimes, it would stall mid-process and tell me that the disk contents had changed and re-start from the beginning while leaving intact (i.e. defragmented) the portion it had already defragmented. After several tries, the process was usually brought to an end (i.e. the whole disk was finally defragmented), but it took time.

    Today, I proceeded to defragment but, aside from the usual initial problems (i.e. scanning for errors, etc.) the defragmentation proceeded to a point and then....simply stopped without returning to the initial defragmentation point. So, bottom line, my system is today 52% defragmented, after several tries. It's more frustrating than anything else because the system runs, on the whole, fairly efficiently. For now. I wouldn't want for it to come to the point where the bottom 50% gets so fragmented that it prevents my system from operating altogether.

    Can somebody please help?

    BTW, over the past weeks and months, I've downloaded software which, in my humble opinion, shouldn't have any bearing on the defragmentation process itself but....what do I know?

    Here's a list for you:

    ZoneAlarmPro
    SpyWare Blaster
    Ad-Aware
    SpyBot Search and Destroy
    AVG 6.0
    Spyware Doctor

    I also have

    Yahoo Messenger
    AOL Instant Messenger
    Net Meeting


    *MANY* thanks for any help you can provide.

  2. #2
    lvon98 is offline Valued Member
    Here's my Hijack This log, in case it's of any use:

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
    Scan saved at 11:32:33 AM, on 10/16/2004
    Platform: Windows ME (Win9x 4.90.3000)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ZONELABS\VSMON.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCEVTMGR.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCSETMGR.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRISOFT\AVG6\AVGSERV9.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE\STMGR.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\TASKMON.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KHOOKER.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\ptsnoop.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\INTERNAT.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\LOADQM.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCPD-LC\SYMLCSVC.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCAPP.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRISOFT\AVG6\AVGCC32.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\ZLCLIENT.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYWARE DOCTOR\SPYDOCTOR.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\SYMPATICO\ACCESS MANAGER\APP\ENTERNET.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\HIJACKTHIS.EXE

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://channels.aimtoday.com/search/aimtoolbar.jsp
    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.ca/
    O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHELPER.DLL
    O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSDXM.OCX
    O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ScanRegistry] C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TaskMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SystemTray] SysTray.Exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SiS KHooker] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\khooker.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CountrySelection] pctptt.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PTSNOOP] ptsnoop.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCHealth] C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\Support\PCHSchd.exe -s
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [internat.exe] internat.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadQM] loadqm.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec Core LC] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe start
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE" -atboottime
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\avgcc32.exe /STARTUP
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Zone Labs Client] "C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [SchedulingAgent] mstask.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [*StateMgr] C:\WINDOWS\System\Restore\StateMgr.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [TrueVector] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ZONELABS\VSMON.EXE -service
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [ScriptBlocking] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Script Blocking\SBServ.exe" -reg
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [ccEvtMgr] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [ccSetMgr] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Avgserv9.exe] C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\Avgserv9.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Spyware Doctor] "C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYWARE DOCTOR\SPYDOCTOR.EXE" /Q
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &AIM Search - res://C:\PROGRAM FILES\AIM TOOLBAR\AIMBAR.DLL/aimsearch.htm
    O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\PROGRAM FILES\AIM\AIM.EXE
    O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
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    O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.granddictionnaire.com
    O15 - Trusted Zone: http://w3.granddictionnaire.com
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    O16 - DPF: {E504EE6E-47C6-11D5-B8AB-00D0B78F3D48} (Yahoo! Webcam Viewer Wrapper) - http://chat.yahoo.com/cab/yvwrctl.cab
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    O16 - DPF: {644E432F-49D3-41A1-8DD5-E099162EEEC5} (Symantec RuFSI Utility Class) - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/S.../bin/cabsa.cab
    O16 - DPF: Yahoo! Chat - http://us.chat1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com.../c381/chat.cab
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    O16 - DPF: {8714912E-380D-11D5-B8AA-00D0B78F3D48} (Yahoo! Webcam Upload Wrapper) - http://chat.yahoo.com/cab/yuplapp.cab
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  3. #3
    lvon98 is offline Valued Member
    Any news on the defragmentation front?

  4. #4
    Tassie Devil is offline DAL Aussie Contingent
    Have you tried defragging in safe mode. Reboot and tap F8 as it starts up, this will take you into safe mode. Looks funny but you should be able to run it from there.

  5. #5
    lvon98 is offline Valued Member
    Tassie. Many thanks. Did as instructed. Went through to the end without problem. Now defragmented. I noted that it still took more time than it once did scanning for errors before defragmenting itself but at least it didn't freeze around the 30% mark.

    Do you think there's a link between the system's 'relative' sluggishness scanning for errors and the general 'relative' sluggishness I experience surfing on the Net?? It's not that I can't access the sites, it's just that it takes more time than it once did. I realize that this might be a tough question given that it's difficult to tele-diagnose a problem of this kind. Just wondering if a problem of this sort has already been brought to your attention.

    Regardless, thank you very much for your solution. It took care of my (minor) problem.

  6. #6
    Tassie Devil is offline DAL Aussie Contingent
    I always found cleaning out the temp internet files, temp files, (just be careful you check whats in them first), old documents, images and programs often sped the comp up quite a bit. It also depends on how many programs you have running in the background and how much memory.
    I'd clean it out a bit if you can. Write down whats running when you tap ctrl+alt+del and google search them to see if theyre necessary. A lot of programs install to run at startup and they just dont need to.

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