Follwed the DOS instructions for ATTRIBUTES above.

Volume in drive C has no label
Volume Serial Number is 0000-0E5A
Directory of C:\

2DELETS <DIR> 06-30-05 11:38p
ARCHIVES <DIR> 09-03-03 12:25p
DEV <DIR> 10-09-05 3:20p
DOS <DIR> 10-09-05 3:37p
DOWNLOAD <DIR> 09-26-05 10:58a
INSTALL <DIR> 02-23-05 12:34p
MYDOCU~1 <DIR> 09-05-03 1:40a
MYSTUF~1 <DIR> 09-03-03 12:25p
RECYCLED <DIR> 03-11-03 4:21p
SONY <DIR> 10-09-05 3:24p
WINDOWS <DIR> 10-09-05 12:18p
AUTOEXEC 002 124 03-15-05 3:49a
AUTOEXEC BAT 115 10-07-05 11:32p
AUTOEXEC DOS 41 04-20-03 2:49a
AUTOEXEC NAV 93 08-04-03 3:29p
AUTOEXEC SYD 554 10-07-05 5:42p
AVPCAL~1 LOG 2 08-22-05 12:55a
BIOS TXT 624 09-09-05 6:12p
BOOTLOG PRV 71,790 10-06-05 10:12p
Press any key to continue . . .

(continuing C:\)
BOOTLOG TXT 70,069 10-06-05 10:43p
COMMAND COM 93,890 04-23-99 10:22p
CONFIG SYS 59 10-09-05 3:59p
DEFAULT NFO 3,372 03-14-03 5:00p
DETLOG OLD 76,980 02-25-05 2:08p
DETLOG TXT 51,962 02-25-05 2:11p
DIRLISTC TXT 0 10-09-05 11:51p
FRUNLOG TXT 1,012 03-11-03 4:13p
HIMEM SYS 33,191 04-23-99 10:22p
IO SYS 222,390 04-23-99 10:22p
MSDOS SYS 1,847 09-17-05 3:58a
NETLOG TXT 1,008 09-09-05 10:28p
OAKCDROM SYS 41,302 04-23-99 10:22p
PRODUC~1 LOG 201,654 10-09-05 4:25p
SCANDISK LOG 877 10-03-05 11:04p
SETUPLOG OLD 82,167 07-08-03 1:25p
SETUPLOG TXT 80,628 12-27-03 12:14p
SETUPXLG TXT 3,798 08-21-05 12:08p
SUHDLOG DAT 8,456 12-27-03 12:09p
SYSTEM 1ST 6,414,368 12-27-03 12:09p
_SID TXT 6,390 10-09-05 4:54p
~ 247,422 10-09-05 5:15p
Press any key to continue . . .

(continuing C:\)
30 file(s) 7,716,185 bytes
11 dir(s) 4,563.09 MB free




However I saw something that may be the trouble I have with my new printer. I cannot use the Director for the 5510 HP all-in-one. Getting error in file//D:ProgamFiles\HP\ Digital Imaging\bbfe\director\director3.htm. (library dll error).

The DOS screen I was reading for the attributes had the followig line: R HPQING~1.dll.
I had a 4 hour sesion with HP and it was not fixed. Thre were over a thousand log file entries.
I got rid of ervythig HP related from everywhere and stared over. The computer can move now. Hogs are HP, McAffee, AOL.

I cannot paste the Dirlistc and d files youhad me make for msdos.sys have 3 adn I only got two lists. I wil try to type out and get to you. Thankyou, very much.

Volume in drive D has no label
Volume Serial Number is 0000-0EE9
Directory of D:\

9401 <DIR> 09-07-05 10:27p
ACORDEX <DIR> 10-04-05 12:06p
AMD3D_~1 <DIR> 09-07-05 10:27p
CONFIG MSI <DIR> 08-07-05 6:05p
CPQDRV <DIR> 09-07-05 10:26p
DRIVERS <DIR> 07-01-05 1:22p
MODEM <DIR> 09-07-05 10:27p
NVIDIA <DIR> 06-28-05 2:29p
PROGRA~1 <DIR> 03-11-03 3:59p
RECYCLED <DIR> 03-11-03 4:21p
REGCHG~1 <DIR> 04-05-05 11:01a
SONYGU~1 <DIR> 07-01-05 12:56p
SP20813 <DIR> 01-13-04 5:45a
TEMP <DIR> 08-05-05 2:45a
WIN98 <DIR> 02-23-05 4:53p
WINDOWS <DIR> 03-11-03 3:59p
WUTEMP <DIR> 03-11-03 7:32p
ADVANCED TVP 27,604 11-18-02 2:15p
AGARTD VXD 30,427 11-18-02 2:15p
Press any key to continue . . .

(continuing D:\)
ALIPCIMP PCI 17,136 11-18-02 2:15p
AUDIO3D DLL 712,704 11-23-01 8:08p
AUTOEXEC BAT 106 08-24-05 9:04p
CAD TVP 25,092 11-18-02 2:15p
CONFIG SYS 59 09-09-05 10:28p
CRLDS3D DLL 765,952 10-21-00 2:28a
DATA1 CAB 1,584,582 11-18-02 2:15p
DATA1 HDR 34,196 11-18-02 2:15p
DATA2 CAB 512 11-18-02 2:15p
DCC TVP 26,164 11-18-02 2:15p
DIRLISTC TXT 2,217 10-09-05 11:47p
DIRLISTD TXT 0 10-09-05 11:53p
FINANCE TVP 28,232 11-18-02 2:15p
GENERIC TVP 25,392 11-18-02 2:15p
HPQIMG~1 DLL 28,672 12-08-03 1:15p
IKERNEL EX_ 339,565 11-18-02 2:15p
IO SYS 222,390 04-23-99 10:22p
LAYOUT BIN 473 11-18-02 2:15p
MSDOS SYS 1,847 09-17-05 3:57a
SETUP INI 439 11-18-02 2:15p
SETUP INX 181,514 11-18-02 2:15p
SETUP ISS 443 11-18-02 2:15p
Press any key to continue . . .

(continuing D:\)
UNINST~1 DAT 192 03-14-03 1:32p
VGARTD VXD 25,584 11-18-02 2:15p
WINDOW~1 BMK 63 06-29-03 2:05p
27 file(s) 4,081,557 bytes
17 dir(s) 12,341.60 MB free

Here you go!!

"ABLE TO PASTE FROM WORD ONLY, NO NOTEPAD OR WORD."

Use a text only editor (such as Notepad when altering) system files. Do NOT use Word or WordPad. These are enhanced editors which renders the file unreadable in DOS. If you just used Word to copy and paste the info here then disregard this warning as you already probably know this.

From your MSDOS.SYS file,
[Paths]
HostWinBootDrv=C
WinBootDir=D:\WINDOWS
WinDir=D:\WINDOWS

it tells me the system is booting off of the C: drive, but running the Windows installation which is on the D: drive.

However, your directory listing from C: also shows me that there is a C:\WINDOWS directory. If this directory is full of files, it means you have two Windows installations, but it's only using one, on D:. I think this is the case as some of the associated directories created with a Windows installation are there as well. If this is indeed the case, some of these directories/files can be deleted freeing up a lot of space on C:.

I also see a DOS directory on C:. (C:\DOS) Do you have some version of dos installed on this machine as well? If this contains any dos files earlier than 7.0, it's basically useless and just taking up hard disk space.

It appears as though you have quite a jumbled system. First time I've seen something this scrambled. Because, you've got (along with a Windows directory) on C: -

MYDOCU~1 <DIR> 09-05-03 1:40a <-- this is "My Documents"

And on your D: drive you have
PROGRA~1 <DIR> 03-11-03 3:59p <-- this is "Program Files"

So the files needed for operation are spread across two drives.

You also have a D:\WIN98 directory. Is this is a third windows install, or just a dumping ground you created?

You have two out of three system_booting files on D:.
IO SYS 222,390 04-23-99 10:22p
MSDOS SYS 1,847 09-17-05 3:57a

These two as well as the third system_booting file, Command.com, are on C:, and the system is booting from there ( C: ), so the two on D: can be deleted. (Use the deltree command outlined below.)

There's also a 6 MB SYSTEM.1ST file on C: which is a copy of your first install registry. However, the date on the other WINDOWS directories, as well as other files in evidence show this is way out of date, so you could delete that as well. To delete this file, either boot to dos or open a dos window, and type in

deltree/y c:\system.1st.

For now, I would rename the msdos.sys files on D: to msdos.ysy and leave them until we're sure they are dormant/useless.

Short of a backup of all data you want, and a fresh install, we'll have to limp along with this until we get it running smoothly.

Originally Posted by Dan Penny

"ABLE TO PASTE FROM WORD ONLY, NO NOTEPAD OR WORD."

SO GALD YOU ARE STILL THERE. I HAD A REAL CRISIS. MY EMAIL ADDRESS WAS RENDERED INVALID. lOST SOME MAIL AND ABILITY TO LONG ON TO MOST SITES. GOOD DAY TO BE HERE, AGAIN.

Use a text only editor (such as Notepad when altering) system files. Do NOT use Word or WordPad. These are enhanced editors which renders the file unreadable in DOS. If you just used Word to copy and paste the info here then disregard this warning as you already probably know this.

From your MSDOS.SYS file,
[Paths]
HostWinBootDrv=C
WinBootDir=D:\WINDOWS
WinDir=D:\WINDOWS

it tells me the system is booting off of the C: drive, but running the Windows installation which is on the D: drive.

However, your directory listing from C: also shows me that there is a C:\WINDOWS directory. If this directory is full of files, it means you have two Windows installations, but it's only using one, on D:. I think this is the case as some of the associated directories created with a Windows installation are there as well. If this is indeed the case, some of these directories/files can be deleted freeing up a lot of space on C:.

I also see a DOS directory on C:. (C:\DOS) Do you have some version of dos installed on this machine as well? If this contains any dos files earlier than 7.0, it's basically useless and just taking up hard disk space.

DELETED. WAS TEMP FOR SONY DRIVER INSTALL ATTEMPT

It appears as though you have quite a jumbled system. First time I've seen something this scrambled. Because, you've got (along with a Windows directory) on C: -

DELETED. DITTO OF ABOVE

MYDOCU~1 <DIR> 09-05-03 1:40a <-- this is "My Documents"

TRUE. I WAS THINKING DATA ON C:

And on your D: drive you have
PROGRA~1 <DIR> 03-11-03 3:59p <-- this is "Program Files"

TRUE. ALL WINDOWS AND PROGRAMS SHOULD BE ON D:

So the files needed for operation are spread across two drives.

You also have a D:\WIN98 directory. Is this is a third windows install, or just a dumping ground you created?

THIS IS CD IMAGE

You have two out of three system_booting files on D:.
IO SYS 222,390 04-23-99 10:22p
MSDOS SYS 1,847 09-17-05 3:57a

GOOD GRIEF??

These two as well as the third system_booting file, Command.com, are on C:, and the system is booting from there ( C: ), so the two on D: can be deleted. (Use the deltree command outlined below.)

There's also a 6 MB SYSTEM.1ST file on C: which is a copy of your first install registry. However, the date on the other WINDOWS directories, as well as other files in evidence show this is way out of date, so you could delete that as well. To delete this file, either boot to dos or open a dos window, and type in

deltree/y c:\system.1st.

CAN IT BE POSSIBLE TO GOT DIRCETORIES - WINDOWS ON D AND ONLY DATA ON C?
(c IS A SMALLER PARTITION).

For now, I would rename the msdos.sys files on D: to msdos.ysy and leave them until we're sure they are dormant/useless.

Short of a backup of all data you want, and a fresh install, we'll have to limp along with this until we get it running smoothly.

i WILL LIMP UNTIL I CAN GET THE CDRW DIRVEERS INSTALLEDTO USE MY BACK UP SOFTWARE AND THEN START FROM SCRATCH. ( DO HAVE ANOHTER HARD DRIVE TO USE AND CAN REBUILD WITH NEW AMD 64 CHIP, ETC). THIS MACHINE IS OVER 2 YEARS OLD.

Took me a minute to realize you had embedded answers in the quote box. ;>) I usually just skip down below these for newly posted answers.

"i WILL LIMP UNTIL I CAN GET THE CDRW DIRVEERS INSTALLEDTO USE MY BACK UP SOFTWARE AND THEN START FROM SCRATCH. ( DO HAVE ANOHTER HARD DRIVE TO USE AND CAN REBUILD WITH NEW AMD 64 CHIP, ETC)."

and;

"CAN IT BE POSSIBLE TO GOT DIRCETORIES - WINDOWS ON D AND ONLY DATA ON C?
(c IS A SMALLER PARTITION)."

OK, windows ~is~ running, correct?

If so, you can start saving files to the chosen DATA drive ( C: ) without installing more software. (Backup software.) Once everything you want is copied over, the DATA drive (currently C: ) can be disconnected and a fresh install performed on the O/S drive (currently D: ). This (O/S) drive should be placed as the primary or Master drive on the primary IDE channel which will make it the NEW C: drive. Then this new C: drive can be formatted, and a fresh install performed on it. Once the "new" O/S is up and running, the old C: drive can be connected (now making it D: ).

NOTE: Any programs which were installed will have to be reinstalled onto the "new" O/S. ie; Anti-Virus, firewall, malware/spyware tools, MS Updates, MS Office (Word, Excel, etc).

Post back if you want to go this route. Any instructions you require to walk you through it will be posted.

Dan,
I am not ready yet to even backup. Sony CDRW driver will not install from Floppy or exe file i downloaded. Exe file wants to make floppy to work from. It that because my bios is going to CD rom First? . (Atapi).

I could get driver to install on D: for installation. Device manager shows no drivers for cd rom.

So far I have all data on C: My Documents with my mujsic, my picture, my downwloads and My 'STUFF. (holds all my data). Coud move all to D: except my data file. Every program is on D:

NOTE: this is one hard drive partioned ie C, D.
PS want to up grade my computer and useXP and new AMD 64 chipset. Have not found any prebuilt except compaq. Do not prefer that choice.

I earllyl want to get rid of the seemingly muti systems. No very sucure here when all my login passwrds were changed and y email address was invaled last week.

I did delete the first run suggested. Please advise next step.

When I have tired other dos diagnostics from RUN ,the screen zips by so fast I cannot read it.

Dan, on page#15 Msdossys shows C boot. Why not just edit to D boot.
I under stand what you are trying to explain to me. That would work when I wipe the other hard dirve and put it in this CPU. Primary concern is getting my back up. AND erasing the junk. Looks as if I have 95 networiking, Nt other stuff and so on.

My utmost appreciation.

"NOTE: this is one hard drive partioned ie C, D."

OK, that explains some things.

You shouldn't try to edit the msdos.sys file to "D boot". Number one reason being, the system (hard disk) has only one ACTIVE partition, C:. Your D: partition is a LOGICAL drive, created within an EXTENDED partition. The machine can only boot from an ACTIVE partition, ie; C:, the Primary partition on the Primary hard disk.

To preserve your data, and in this new light of things, do the opposite of what I stated in post #16, you can copy everything you want to save over to the D: partition. Then as stated above, you could format C: and reinstall Windows. Again: Any programs which were installed will have to be reinstalled onto the "new" O/S. ie; Anti-Virus, firewall, malware/spyware tools, MS Updates, MS Office (Word, Excel, etc).

Edit:
To reinstall Windows you will need a 98, 98SE, or XP CD, and the product key for that CD. Also you haven't mentioned if this is a proprietary type (Brand Name) system. ie; Compaq, Hewlett Packard, Gateway, IBM, Dell, etc. This will make a difference.

So if the system is currently running, just copy things over to D:, there is no need (at this point) to install CDRW burning software. Once the "new" O/S resides on C:, clean up can be performed on D:, ie; deleting the old Windows directory etc. I can walk you through this if you require. Certain steps should be performed in a certain order. Don't just start deleting things. ;>)

If you want to install XP on this machine, the same applies. Copy what you want preserved over to D:. XP can then be installed on the C: partition (based upon what you find in the links below).

You should look here and here to see if this machine will support an XP install.

XP Readiness Test

Let us know your intentions/findings, and we can proceed from there.

Oh Boy. One great mind is better than 1/2 of mine with yours!

I have my W98SE disk full. This is a computer I built. Asus board and AMD XP 1500+.
How does one format on the C part of the drive?

Everrest said no AGP. It is there but ..where or how to check?

When I read about partioning and having done it before I was told it did not matter where Windows was put. How would I know which is active. Maybe I swithced everything by mistake. Also, yesterday I took back the XP up update. This system is not enough. Right now is it worse than my old PII of 4 years ago.

There are things not right on this computer. Files titled with gribbish that I do not know what they are.

Dial up at 28,000 right now usually 48, 000.

sign off, for now.