upgrading my dell 4700's graphic card

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    fridaygi is offline Newbie

    Smile upgrading my dell 4700's graphic card

    hi,i'm new to all this so please be patient.i have a dell 4700(details below)i was wondering can anyone tell me how and where to get a new graphics card as some new games won't work.i have recently ordered extra ram(1gb)it will follow soon.thank you

    OS Information:
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    OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition|C:\WINDOWS|\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
    Service Pack 2.0
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS


    Processor:
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    Current Clock Speed 2992
    Description x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 4
    Manufacturer GenuineIntel
    Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz


    Memory (RAM):
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    Bank Label
    Capacity 268435456

    Bank Label
    Capacity 268435456

    Total Memory Deteced in Hardware: ~512 MB
    Memory Reported to Operating System: 510MB

    Disk Drives:
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    Description Disk drive
    Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
    Model WDC WD2500JS-75NCB1
    Media Type Fixed hard disk media
    Size 249999160320 (~233 GB)
    Number of Partitions 1


    Installed Printers:
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    Motherboard:
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    Manufacturer Dell Inc.
    Model
    Name Base Board
    Part Number
    Product 0M3918
    Serial Number ..CN7082149500LX.
    Version


    BIOS:
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    Manufacturer Dell Inc.
    Name Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A03
    Release Date 20040823000000.000000+000
    Version DELL - 7


    Monitor:
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    Description Default Monitor
    Name Default Monitor
    Screen Height 768
    Screen Width 1024

    Description Default Monitor
    Name Default Monitor
    Screen Height
    Screen Width


    Keyboard:
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    Description Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard


    Pointing Device:
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    Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
    Name USB Human Interface Device


    Sound Card:
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    Manufacturer Microsoft
    Description Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    Device ID MODEMWAVE\0\{CD16E4A6-4CA5-4C3F-A0A7-AD03849198CB}

    Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc.
    Description SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
    Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266E&SUBSYS_01811028&REV_03\3&172 E68DD&0&F2


    Video Card:
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    Adapter Compatibility ATI Technologies Inc.
    Adapter RAM 134217728
    Description RADEON X300 Series
    Installed Display Drivers ati2dvag.dll
    Driver Version 6.14.10.6444
    Driver Date 28/05/2004 09:57:50
    Video Mode Description 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors

    Adapter Compatibility ATI Technologies Inc.
    Adapter RAM 134217728
    Description RADEON X300 Series Secondary
    Installed Display Drivers ati2dvag.dll
    Driver Version 6.14.10.6444
    Driver Date 28/05/2004 09:57:50
    Video Mode Description


    DirectX Installation:
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    Modem:
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    Model Intel(R) 537EP V9x DF PCI Modem
    Name Intel(R) 537EP V9x DF PCI Modem


    Network Adapters:
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    Description Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description USB Cable Modem 351000 - Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description Microsoft TV/Video Connection
    Description Microsoft Tun Miniport Adapter
    Description WAN Miniport (IPX)
    Description USB Cable Modem 351000
    Description Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
    Description Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)

    External Ports:
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    Expansion Slots:
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    Slot Designation PCI_1
    Slot Designation PCI_2
    Slot Designation PCI_E_1
    Slot Designation PEG
    -------------------------------------------------------on,thank you


  2. #2
    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    That board takes a PCI_E x16 card.

    The X300 that you have is a decent basic card.

    Your PSU is 305 Watts. As you go towards higher end cards the more power required as well as the possible need for dedicated lines from the PSU which yours does not have.

    That being said here is a selection with many filters on the left menu you can add in searching: (price; memory; brand; etc.)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CI+Express+x16

    Post back any you like and we can look further. You would, for example, not be able to use the high end 8800's as they are too big and require too much power for your current configuration.

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    fridaygi is offline Newbie
    thanks for the help,could you recommend any of these cards as i still don't know what i'm looking at.how much better are they than my existing card?

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    What is your price range?

    What games do you want to play?

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    fridaygi is offline Newbie
    hi,my budget is about 250 euro.one game i have is supreme commander.when i try to run it an error message pops up saying to check system meets minimum requirements.i think it does,but am getting an extra 1g of ram to help as well.most new games seem to require more ram and better graphics cards than come standard with most pcs.

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    Your Manual

    My first concern is that your RAM slots run by the rear of the PCI_E slot. Therefore you have to be careful of the length of the PCI_E card. They are not all the same. Many high end cards are just too long for your motherboard. However your PSU appears to have a single PCI_E power supply line in P4:





    Next concern is the monitor connection. There is DVI and VGA (D-SUB). Most new cards are using only DVI. I am just guessing that your monitor is VGA (D-SUB). So you either need an adapter or choose a card with 1 DVI and 1 VGA (D-SUB). Also you will lose your upper PCI slot as these cards are basically two slots deep due to their heatsinks and fans.

    For your budget you can get a very good "high mid-end" card. I am still concerned also about your PSU which Dell states at 305 Watts. You can use this page to try and add up your systems' needs:

    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp

    This first filter is US dollars $100 > $200

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...24100+-+%24200

    This is $200 > $300 (only 2 with D-SUB)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...24200+-+%24300

    If you click on these cards you get details as well as user reviews. You can also Google the card for other reviews and details. I also do not know what is accessible in Europe rather than the US (Newegg).

    You might try your existing card with your new RAM and just see how it runs games. I would say the X300 are low end PCI_E but superior to AGP cards. Your budget would buy a card 2 to 3 times the price of X300 cards and you do generally get what you pay for.



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    Last edited by jephree; 18-07-2007 at 02:44 AM.

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    fridaygi is offline Newbie
    wow,thats a lot of info!i'll take your advice and wait for ram but you have given me a lot to think about,thanks again

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