PSU Upgrade problem with CPU Fan

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    Pystal is offline Junior Member

    Question PSU Upgrade problem with CPU Fan

    Hi all,

    I am new here and have been trying to find a solution for ever now. I hope that someone here can help me.

    I have a Compaq Presario 6000 series (I think it is a 6010us).
    It has a 200w PSU and I bought a MSI NX6600 256MB DDR video card that requires 350w PSU.

    I placed a 400w PSU in the case and turned the PC on. Everything worked except for the CPU Fan. I Found the only cable that the new 400w PSU doesn't have is a 2 pin wire that connects to the MB where it Reads: Fan Power. The old 200w PSU has this 2 pin wire, one White with a Blue stripe and one White with a Red stripe wich pluges into the MB.

    The CPU Fan itself has a 3 wire that plugs into the MB.

    I have searched online and can not find any info on this strange 2 pin wire. I can't seem to find a PSU that has this wire either. I was wondering if I can find an adapter, 4 pin to a 2 pin.

    Or is it possible to connect the CPU Fan 3 wire directly to the PSU with an adapter of 3 Pin to a 4 Pin? Would that work or should I consider other options?

    Thank you for any help you can offer.

    -Pystal
    Last edited by Pystal; 12-03-2006 at 09:36 PM.

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    You can find almost any adapter These links are just quick samples. You can find these at any computer store or a Radio Shack type place.

    3-Pin Fan to 4-Pin Power Adapter

    http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/3-PINto4-PIN.html


    Fan Adapter Cables 2 & 3 Pin

    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ndex&cPath=289


    Using the 3 to 4 and bypassing the motherboard is what I would suggest.

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    Pystal is offline Junior Member
    Quote Originally Posted by jephree
    You can find almost any adapter These links are just quick samples. You can find these at any computer store or a Radio Shack type place.

    3-Pin Fan to 4-Pin Power Adapter

    http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/3-PINto4-PIN.html


    Fan Adapter Cables 2 & 3 Pin

    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ndex&cPath=289


    Using the 3 to 4 and bypassing the motherboard is what I would suggest.
    Thank you for the help. I had a 80mm fan with a 4 pin and mounted that to the CPU instead of the original fan. I plugged it into the PSU and everything is working fine so far...

    I put the new Video card in and had no problems until I started to install the NVidea Drivers from the CD. Microsoft Windows XP jumps up and says that I may ot want to install this as it may make my system unstable or not work altogether. Something about MS Logos tested certified or something like that.

    It seems it should have some MS seal of approval sticker on it stating that it was tested and found to be compatible with MS Windows XP.

    Should I install anyway?

    Thanks,

    Pysatl

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    nvidia drivers from their own CD should be fine.

    http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

    Microsoft does have an accredited list but I don't think there is any issue here.

    Worst case: drivers can always be removed and changed.

    You should remove all previous graphics drivers and programs.
    Driver Installation Hints

    * "Download Accelerator" utilities should be disabled when downloading any drivers.

    * Do not run virus protection software in the background while installing the drivers. This prevents the driver from configuring itself properly.

    * Before installing new drivers make sure you uninstall all NVIDIA display drivers from the Windows Control Panel. Browse to the Start Menu > Windows Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and search for "NVIDIA Windows Display Drivers" or "NVIDIA Display Drivers" and select remove.
    http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_...ion_hints.html

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    Pystal is offline Junior Member
    Quote Originally Posted by jephree
    nvidia drivers from their own CD should be fine.

    http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

    Microsoft does have an accredited list but I don't think there is any issue here.

    Worst case: drivers can always be removed and changed.

    You should remove all previous graphics drivers and programs.

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_...ion_hints.html


    Thank you for the help. You people here are very helpful and I am wicked happy I stumbled upon your site here!

    I will give this a try and I should be OK after that. I will report back to keep you all up to date, but that won't be until tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. I get over excited and may stay up and do this tonight.

    Take care,

    Pystal

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    Pystal is offline Junior Member
    Well, I have run into some serious snags. I was doing fine until I installed the MSI Live Update 3 Program from the CD that came with the Video Card.

    Once that was installed and roobooted, the machine would reboot then I would log on and after the programs loaded up, the PC would automatically reboot itself. This kept happening.

    So, I went into Safe Mode and uninstalled the program. That seemed to work, except that now I keep recieving this MS Error Report stating that The PC has recovered from a Serious System Failer. After I hit send to MS, it would show up, so I hit don't send and it showed up faster and faster.

    I let that error message stay there and downloaded what I hope to be the latest drivers for this card (as there is no easy way to tell). I just used a process of elimination for choosing the best one.

    After I installed that driver, things seem to have become more stable. I went to bed and am now at work, so I haven't been able to test anything out yet. I wonder if I should have uninstalled the old drivers from the CD first, then install the ones from the Website?

    If so, I can always just do that when I get home, or should I just leave it be for now? When I check the Device Manager it says I have a 8. something Driver version, but the one in the Display Properties shows that I have 6. something version. (I can post the actual numbers when I get home)

    Is that a little strange? Or shouyld I just go with it and see what happens?

    Also, Would I be able to uninstall the drivers in Safe Mode if I had too?

    Thanks you all once again for your help. I would certainly be lost without you.

    -Pystal

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    I would uninstall all nvidia software and drivers in Safe Mode.

    Do not use that CD.

    Get the driver here:

    http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

    Just verify that the latest driver has your particular card in its supported list.

    Most cards within the last few years take the latest driver but check.

    If you need to ID your card go to Start/Run/ dxdiag | Display | Device

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    Pystal is offline Junior Member
    Quote Originally Posted by jephree
    I would uninstall all nvidia software and drivers in Safe Mode.

    Do not use that CD.

    Get the driver here:

    http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

    Just verify that the latest driver has your particular card in its supported list.

    Most cards within the last few years take the latest driver but check.

    If you need to ID your card go to Start/Run/ dxdiag | Display | Device
    Thank you once again.

    I will try this out as soon as I get home. I am at work and will be home in about 2 hours or so.

    I am worried that I will not have enough info about which driver to get. I will try the method you gave me (thanks btw.) and see what it shows. I went to this web site last night and the closest driver I could see is the GeFORCE and TNT2 under the Graphics Drivers choice. That's the one I chose last night, the one for XP that is, and I installed it. I should have uninstalled the other drivers first, but I am a little unsure as to how to do that.

    If that isn't the driver, I hope that after running that diagnostic I will be able to tell easily. What if there are no supported drivers? What should I do then? I know now that I will not use the disk that came with it thats for sure.

    I don't know exactly how to uninstall them, unless it is done by going into device manager and clicking on display devices and then uninstaling the driver there that reads Nvidea 6600 etc.


    Thank you for your time and patience. I really appreciate all of your help.

    -Pystal

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    Most cards within the past few years will be covered by the latest nvidia driver.

    There is a Products Supported button on the left hand menu just to verify.

    If your card is not listed then it will show you the latest version for your card from the archives.

    That CD has so much unnecessary stuff on it that it is best not to use it.

    To remove existing stuff go to Control Panel Add/Remove Programs and remove any nvidia programs. Also go to your Device Manager and uninstall the driver.

    * Before installing new drivers make sure you uninstall all NVIDIA display drivers from the Windows Control Panel. Browse to the Start Menu > Windows Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and search for "NVIDIA Windows Display Drivers" or "NVIDIA Display Drivers" and select remove.
    Before you reinstall the driver you might want to run check disk regarding the windows errors:

    start > run > cmd
    in the new window type chkdsk/f
    when prompted to run on boot choose Y & reboot
    this will check for & fix any disk errors.

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    Pystal is offline Junior Member
    Quote Originally Posted by jephree
    Most cards within the past few years will be covered by the latest nvidia driver.

    There is a Products Supported button on the left hand menu just to verify.

    If your card is not listed then it will show you the latest version for your card from the archives.

    That CD has so much unnecessary stuff on it that it is best not to use it.

    To remove existing stuff go to Control Panel Add/Remove Programs and remove any nvidia programs. Also go to your Device Manager and uninstall the driver.



    Before you reinstall the driver you might want to run check disk regarding the windows errors:

    start > run > cmd
    in the new window type chkdsk/f
    when prompted to run on boot choose Y & reboot
    this will check for & fix any disk errors.

    Once again, you are the best!!

    I am going to do this ASAP, when I get home. I am too excited and want to try this out now! I can't though as I am at work.

    I can't thank you enough and when I get through this period of financial doom, I am going to send in a donation. I think that you do a terrific job here and I would like to help support your efforts for everyone's benifit. This may take me a little while, but I promise that I will not forget to help out.

    As for my problem, I will keep you updated as soon as I find out how things go.

    Thanks again,

    Pystal

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