I want to upggrae from a P3 to a P4???

  1. #1
    yumzone is offline Full Member

    I want to upgrade from a P3 to a P4???

    Hi there I want to upgrade my computer as I am currently running aPentium 3 500 mhz i believe - i did a system scan and have included the details below.

    Can anyone advice whether i will need a new motherboard if so any ideas as to a good one? well any advice to start with would be great.

    Yummy
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    OS Information:
    PropertyValue
    OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition|C:\WINDOWS|\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
    Service Pack 2.0
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS


    Processor:
    PropertyValue
    Current Clock Speed 501
    Description x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 3
    Manufacturer GenuineIntel
    Name Intel Pentium III processor


    Memory (RAM):
    PropertyValue
    Bank Label RAS 1 & 0
    Capacity 268435456

    Bank Label RAS 3 & 2
    Capacity 268435456

    Total Memory Deteced in Hardware: ~512 MB
    Memory Reported to Operating System: 511MB

    Disk Drives:
    PropertyValue
    Description Disk drive
    Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
    Model WDC WD800BB-00FJA0
    Media Type Fixed hard disk media
    Size 80023749120 (~75 GB)
    Number of Partitions 1


    Installed Printers:
    PropertyValue
    Name hp deskjet 845c series
    Port Name USB001
    Default True
    Driver Name hp deskjet 845c series


    Motherboard:
    PropertyValue
    Manufacturer
    Model
    Name Base Board
    Part Number
    Product
    Serial Number
    Version


    BIOS:
    PropertyValue
    Manufacturer Award Software International, Inc.
    Name Award Modular BIOS v4.60PGMA
    Release Date 19991210000000.000000+000
    Version AWARD - 42302e31


    Monitor:
    PropertyValue
    Description Plug and Play Monitor
    Name Plug and Play Monitor
    Screen Height 768
    Screen Width 1024


    Keyboard:
    PropertyValue
    Description Easy Internet Keyboard


    Pointing Device:
    PropertyValue
    Manufacturer Microsoft
    Name HID-compliant mouse


    Sound Card:
    PropertyValue
    Manufacturer Logitech
    Description Logitech Microphone (Pro 4000)
    Device ID USB\VID_046D&PID_08B2&MI_01\6&C977383&0&0001

    Manufacturer Creative Technology Ltd.
    Description Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
    Device ID PCI\VEN_1274&DEV_5880&SUBSYS_20001274&REV_02\3&61A AA01&0&58

    Manufacturer ESS Technology, Inc.
    Description ESS 1969 PCI AudioDrive (WDM)
    Device ID PCI\VEN_125D&DEV_1969&SUBSYS_8888125D&REV_01\3&61A AA01&0&68


    Video Card:
    PropertyValue
    Adapter Compatibility NVIDIA
    Adapter RAM 67108864
    Description NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420
    Installed Display Drivers nv4_disp.dll
    Driver Version 6.14.10.4523
    Driver Date 28/07/2003 13:19:00
    Video Mode Description 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors


    DirectX Installation:
    PropertyValue
    Version 6.03.01.0146


    Modem:
    PropertyValue

    Network Adapters:
    PropertyValue
    Description Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description RAS Async Adapter
    Description Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description WAN Miniport (L2TP)
    Description WAN Miniport (PPTP)
    Description WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
    Description Direct Parallel
    Description WAN Miniport (IP)
    Description Packet Scheduler Miniport
    Description Microsoft TV/Video Connection

    External Ports:
    PropertyValue
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator
    External Reference Designator No Detected
    External Reference Designator

    Expansion Slots:
    PropertyValue
    Slot Designation ISA
    Slot Designation PCI
    Slot Designation PCI
    Slot Designation PCI
    Slot Designation AGP
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    Last edited by yumzone; 03-01-2005 at 01:28 AM. Reason: spelling mistake - oops

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    Your PIII is probably a Slot 1 processor.

    Run this program to ID your motherboard:

    Everest

    Post back the board details & we can look it up to be sure.

    The most you can do with a Slot 1 is to run an adapter such as this:

    http://www.powerleap.com/PL-iP3T.html

    This will give you up to a Celeron 1400.

    I have used these adapters and am pleased with them, but in retrospect I would start from scratch with a new board and all.

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    yumzone is offline Full Member
    Done that thank you, i dont mind upgrading would need advice at whats best to buy ie will i be able to use the ram i have now on the new board etc what pentium4 i buy as theres loads lol. Im not scared to go into the machine and install things as i changed my tower last year and had to swap everything over . woohoo for me lol
    Any way here is what i got.

    Hope its the right info :

    Motherboard:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium III, 500 MHz (5 x 100)
    Motherboard Name AOpen MX6B EZ (1 ISA, 3 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
    Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440ZX
    System Memory 512 MB (SDRAM)
    BIOS Type Award Modular (12/10/99)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
    Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨
    That board is a slot 1, so a celeron 1400 is about as much a tweak as it would take, & although that would be a noticable improvement, I would still suggest starting fresh.

    Your RAM & Drives & any cards will most likely be transferable. If reusing your RAM is important you will want to pay attention to what type of RAM the new board supports.

    Here are some links to the whole process & I am sure others here will have alot more to offer.

    http://www.pcguide.com/topic.html

    http://www.extremetech.com/category2...,644478,00.asp

    http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/step/1/

    good luck

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    yumzone is offline Full Member
    Great thanks I will have a read of the sites you have listed.
    Yummy

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    jephree is offline ¨*·.¸ «.·°·..·°·.» ¸.·*¨

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    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    That's a nice system you've got there - a big processor upgrade would really make the most of it.

    I would agree with Jephree. "Upgrade processors" are sold to those that want a very quick and easy solution but they work out more expensive than the comparable Intel Celeron processor with a brand new motherboard. Personally, I would say that those PowerLeap processors appear to be rather over-priced - Evergreen are another company that make exactly the same thing but I'm sure they're cheaper than that (www.evertech.com).

    Your PC currently uses SDRAM, which you can use on some slower Pentium 4 systems if you get a motherboard with 2 SDRAM slots and your RAM is PC133. If you have more than 2 memory modules fitted inside your PC, you'd be hard pushed to find a new motherboard that has enough slots to take them all. To get the best performance out of your system, whatever P4 processor you choose, I think you'll need to look at replacing your memory with RDRAM. 512Mb of DDR400 RDRAM is £49 at www.Crucial.com.

    The question of which processor to buy depends on what you want to do with the PC. I use my PC for several hours or more every day and I'm more than happy with my Pentium 4 2.4GHz (533MHz FSB) but I don't play games or use any hefty graphics or video editing programs to do 3D rendering, etc. Serious gamers, I suspect, would suggest that processor prices are low enough that you should aim for nothing less than 3.0GHz.

    When buying a motherboard, ensure that you have enough slots for your expansion cards, e.g. sound, graphics, modem, etc. Also, beware of the fact that there's a new type of slot that's pretty common now - it's called PCI-X or PCI Express and standard PCI cards will NOT fit into these slots!

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    yumzone is offline Full Member
    Lots to think about there all seems good advice ... my family say buy a new system from a store but why should i when i feel confident enough to build one. Im not looking for high gaming the best i play is yahoo pool lmao just if i can get my syste, running any better then i want to do it.
    Hey guys thanks alot but if any of you have any more ideas let me have em
    Yummy

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    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    If you want to keep costs down and don't play intensive games, then a cheaper Intel Celeron processor is well worth considering - most people wouldn't really notice a difference between a Celeron and the comparable full Pentium 4 chip and, at just £51 from Insight (www.insight.com/uk), the Celeron 2.4GHz full retail box with heatsink/fan is very good value.

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