yeah I agree but when I get the RMA are they gonna say something about the BIOS being flashed?

I don't know if it was exactly 3 minutes but I know it was a long time I imagine probably around 2 and half min it was slow but when I pressed delete to load setup it was like it was forced to speed up if that makes any sense.

Originally Posted by PlatinumMoto

yeah I agree but when I get the RMA are they gonna say something about the BIOS being flashed?

I don't know if it was exactly 3 minutes but I know it was a long time I imagine probably around 2 and half min it was slow but when I pressed delete to load setup it was like it was forced to speed up if that makes any sense.

I don't know if a flash would void a warranty. It shouldn't provided you got it from them and you got the correct version. I would try to avoid telling them though. Check the documentation that came with the update and your manual. I think your CPU censor might be off considering I have never heard of it getting that low without a special heat sink or a water cooling system. That and your thermal compound isn't correct. As digerati said it is counter productive to have too much. You should only use enough to cover the entire processor with a thin layer. There is a fine line.

It doesn't matter if it was 3 minutes or 2 something. It should take over a few seconds to hand control over to the operating system.

I have a heatsink it's like 140mm and it produces 77.85 cfm so I figured that would be normal. So are we agreeing it's the motherboard then.

here's the link: http://www.thermaltake.com/product/C...1/cl-p0391.asp

So what are your suggestions unplug my cpu fan and clear off the thermal compound and then try it again?

I thought are that the MB is bad or going bad and that you should contact Asus immediately [ASAP]; tell them that that it has been show to boot up since your first use (it has right?), tell them how long, and that now it won't even boot up consistently. Avoid, if at all possible, the BIOS update unless they ask. In which case you where trying to fix the boot problem. Also I would mess with it anymore until you talk to tech support.

by mess with it anymore do you mean flashing the bios or do you mean actually using it and it running the computer.

Its possible considering it shouldn't have been taking 3 minutes to boot in the first place.

It doesn't matter if it was 3 minutes or 2 something. It should take over a few seconds to hand control over to the operating system.

There's some confusion here. First, it is not uncommon for systems to take 4 - 5 minutes to boot - depending on the basic hardware (CPU, RAM, motherboard, graphics), firewall, AV, AS and other security, and whatever else is loaded at boot.

but when I get the RMA are they gonna say something about the BIOS being flashed?

If the motherboard maker has a new BIOS on their website, upgrading the BIOS will not void the warranty.

So what are your suggestions unplug my cpu fan and clear off the thermal compound and then try it again?

You mean you have not done that already? Too much is too much.

I have a heatsink it's like 140mm and it produces 77.85 cfm so I figured that would be normal.

I hope your AMD was not a retail version that came with an heatsink fan assembly. If you did buy a retail version that came with a fan, then you voided your CPU warranty by using a 3rd party cooler!

So are we agreeing it's the motherboard then.

Not me. Not until you apply a proper layer of TIM. 29°C (84.2°F) is barely above ambient room temperatures - and that is not typical with traditional cooling (fans). I would use the HW monitor that ASUS provided on your utilities disk as that "should" accurately put proper label to sensor.

New developments I called ASUS and they said to test it before it I send it back for RMA in order to do that I need to take out of the case and reassemble it on a piece of cardboard and then if it boots up then it's fine and there is a ground short in the case itself. The second option is to put the CPU in another computer so I'm gonna try both but are you telling me that the CPU fan I have voids the warranty?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by retail version I bought it and it didn't come with a CPU Fan. It was just the chip.

Well according to ASUS Pc Probe II my CPU is 38 C according to Everest my CPU Cores are all at 27 right now. So I'm not sure how to determine exactly how much it really is from Everest.

One more thing I still have some thermal paste I got with my fan I cut it into two sections is it still good it's not opened I don't believe.

That other computer has to be of the same socket as yours.

it's an AM2+ just like this one.