Overheating

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    dan69 is offline Newbie

    Overheating

    I have a 2 year old
    Mainboard : Fujitsu Siemens GA-8I848PM
    Processor : Intel Pentium 4 @ 3000 MHz
    Physical Memory : 1024 MB (2 x 512 DDR-SDRAM )
    Video Card : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9250 (RV280)
    Windows Vista Ultimate

    And for quite a while now, it has been overheating. It originally came with 512MB RAM, but i upgraded. Then it overheated after some time so i took it to a shop. They said it was the GPU so i replaced it with the one i have now. But it still overheats. Not straight away. It is in an open area and has been cleaned out. I do not know if i need extra cooling, or a new PSU. Thanks. Dan.

    Ok. I have opened up my computer, the underneith of the PSU was very dusty so i cleaned that.
    I removed the heatsink, which was also slightly dusty and cleaned that, and from the looks of things my processor does not look good. Seems kind of.. old. Worn out. Thats just my stupid opinion though.
    After turning the computer back on, in idle state, the heat seems to be going down at the moment, it is 74 degrees now when last night it was 110, but i still think there must be a problem somewhere, maybe a new heatsink or PSU? thanks anyway. Dan.
    Last edited by dan69; 02-08-2007 at 12:53 PM. Reason: Update

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    When you removed the heatsink and reinstalled it, did you first clean the CPU and HS of old TIM (thermal interface material) using alcohol or Acetone, and then apply an ultra-thin layer of fresh new thermal paste? If not, you should have.

    What are you measuring your temperatures with and in what scale? 74°C is way too hot. 74°F is room temperature and not realistic. 110°C would likely destroy a CPU, or the socket underneath, but 110°F = 43°C and that's fine. Computer temperatures are normally stated in Celsius (C).

    Use Everest to verify your temperatures. Look under Computer > Sensor (wait a couple seconds for the readings to appear).

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    dan69 is offline Newbie
    I was using PC Wizard 2007 to measure temperatures.
    No i did not use alcohol and thermal paste, is this a hard task to do?

    Everest reports my CPU to be :
    CPU 85 °C (185 °F)
    Motherboard 43 °C (109 °F)

    The fan speed is
    CPU 2860 RPM

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    Your CPU temp is way too high.
    No i did not use alcohol and thermal paste, is this a hard task to do?
    See my sticky here.

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    dan69 is offline Newbie
    Will using thermal paste help to cool down my computer would you think?
    Or do i take it to a shop? Thanks for the help. Dan.

  6. #6
    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    It is absolutely essential for proper CPU cooling. However, it takes more than just thermal paste between the CPU and HSF. You have to extract the heat from the case and to do that, you MUST also have adequate front to back cooling inside the case. What do you have for case cooling (not counting the PSU fan)?

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    dan69 is offline Newbie
    Just the CPU fan i think? I have a scaleo P fujitsu siemens computer.
    I do not know how i can add extra fans to this case? Any help would be appreciated.

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    Quote Originally Posted by dan69 View Post
    Just the CPU fan i think? I have a scaleo P fujitsu siemens computer.
    I do not know how i can add extra fans to this case? Any help would be appreciated.
    That would not be good. Note the CPU fan only pulls heat away from the CPU then dumps it into the interior of the case. You need to open the side of the case and inspect the case for fans and fan options. Start with the back panel. Look for fans, or places to mount fans that look like this:



    Standard size are 80mm wide - but if your case supports larger fans, typically 92mm or better yet, 120mm, get them. They move more air and are quieter.

    Behind the front panel is also where some cases offer fan support, as well as behind the drive cage. You will also need extra power connectors from your PSU - typically the same type that go to your hard drives.

    While you are inside the case, make sure it is clean of dust and dirt. Observe ESD precautions as noted in that TIM link.

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    dan69 is offline Newbie
    There is a fan space at the back pof the computer above the gpu.
    I cannot see any more room for a fan on this case.
    But i have read that everyone who has bought a scaleo P computer has had overheating problems. I will put new thermal paste on the cpu and heatsink.
    Also use compressed air to clean out the whole computer and see if i still have a problem. What temperature should it be running at (CPU). Thanks. Dan.

  10. #10
    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    I don't let my CPUs to go over 60°C.

    While waiting to put in your new fan, you should consider leaving the side panel off and blasting a desk fan in there.

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