Hello,

I have a blue screen problem that i can't find a solution to!

I recently bought a new graphic card: Radeon all-in-wonder x1800xl. Installed it on a clean system (did a reformat before i installed).
The problem occurs after usually 30-60 minutes of gaming (so far with oblivion, black & white 2). The game freezes for about 30 sec and then goes into blue-screen mode.
The message is as follows:
Kernel-Data-inpage-error stop error screen
then there are a lot of numbers etc.
I have sometimes noticed a slight change in fan noise prior to freeze (speeding up)
After reebot everything's back to normal.

My system is relatively new (a year and a half or so), i have:
Windows XP pro SP2
Asus P5AD2 deluxe motherboard with integrated sound-card
Pentium 4ht, 3.4Ghz, 2GB ram.
all my drivers are up-to-date as far as i know. The ATI drivers are certainly up-to-date

I have run some fix-it-utilities diagnostics and found no error or the like.

I previously had an ATI Radeon 600 series card, on the same system. Never had a problem with HL2, Far Cry, or whatever

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Zurzu

There are many versions of KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

What is the full error message? The Code is important e.g. 0xC000000E etc.

You might also see it in your Event Viewer:

Start/Run/ eventvwr

Originally Posted by jephree

There are many versions of KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

What is the full error message? The Code is important e.g. 0xC000000E etc.

You might also see it in your Event Viewer:

Start/Run/ eventvwr

Here's a shot of the message. Couldn't find anything interesting in the event viewer.

thanks

zurzu

Originally Posted by jephree

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I love the "Screen Shot" That is perfect! Okay... STOP Messages 0x00000077 and 0x0000007A are related kernel traps that are caused when the operating system tries to load a page into memory from the paging file on the hard disk, but cannot access the page because of either a software or hardware failure. Typically anyway. Something you can do to solve this is to tell the system not to page. You have over a Gig of memory, there is really no need for your system to page at all. With all of the processing the games require, this is probably the reason for the shut downs.

Here's how you do this..
1. We are going to be editing the Registry to do this, so you want to go to Start->Run, and type in : regedit. Once Regedit has started, go to File->Export and save a copy of your current registry in your My Documents folder. Name it the Date with the words NoPaging.

2. Using the Regedit tool navigate to the key HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management.

3. On the right, double-click the value name DisablePagingExecutive and change the value data to 1. Click OK.

4. Choose File -> Exit to get out of Regedit.

You need to restart your computer for the change to take effect.

What this will do is to tell the computer to no create page files and to just use RAM. With as much RAM as you have, there is no need for the computer to need a page file at all. Once you have restarted the computer, go straight into your game and play there for a few hours to see if you Blue screen out again. I'm betting you won't. You may also find that the system seems a bit faster as well. I'm going to be writing an article soon on some XP tweaks. I'll post a link here to the page on D-A-L when I'm finished.

Have a great day! and GG!

Glenn Hefley

Originally Posted by zurzu

Here's a shot of the message. Couldn't find anything interesting in the event viewer.

thanks

zurzu

Common Causes of STOP Messages 0x00000077 and 0x0000007A

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130801/en-us

There is a possibility of a hard drive problem re: 0xC000000E

Who is the manufacturer of your hard drive? There will be a diagnostic on their web site.

If you want to gain further details you can pull up the whole dump file like this:

Go to start | search (type in) .dmp
Note the location of your .dmp files.

Then:

1) Download and install the
Debugging Tools from Microsoft
2) Download and install this
debugwiz
3) Open the Wiz & Browse to, or paste in the path to, your .dmp file.
4) After the Wiz creates a Text document attach it back to this thread.

Originally Posted by zurzu

I have sometimes noticed a slight change in fan noise prior to freeze (speeding up)
After reebot everything's back to normal.

This does indicate a heat problem. You might try a test run with the case open.

Also contrary to the previous poster you should not alter the way that XP was designed to run:

Can the Virtual Memory be turned off on a really large machine?

Strictly speaking Virtual Memory is always in operation and cannot be “turned off.” What is meant by such wording is “set the system to use no page file space at all.”

Doing this would waste a lot of the RAM. The reason is that when programs ask for an allocation of Virtual memory space, they may ask for a great deal more than they ever actually bring into use — the total may easily run to hundreds of megabytes. These addresses have to be assigned to somewhere by the system. If there is a page file available, the system can assign them to it — if there is not, they have to be assigned to RAM, locking it out from any actual use.

http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php



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Thanks for the advice guys...i'll have to read carefully as this is advanced stuff (for me )

zurzu

ps. i just added World of Warcraft to the list of blue-screen generating games

Let us know if we can help you decipher anything.

It is important to note if the errors are always the same. Not only the 0x0000007A but also the following parameters: 0xC000000E etc.

If you can pull up those dump logs we could compare them in detail and get a better idea of what is going on.

Since this problem also started with that graphics card we should keep that in mind as suspect.

Either heat or a faulty card perhaps.

Also did you uninstall the previous ATI drivers before installing new?

As Jephree pointed out, this can be a problem with the hard drive, as well as the video card. The error is pointing to a problem with the paging area. Paging is the computer's attempt to add more memory to the system, by using the hard drive to store information on which would normally be used in RAM. By placing this information on the hard disk, and then accessing it when needed, the computer gains some resources to run more programs at the same time, or larger programs than it would otherwise be able to run... that's the watered down version of it anyway Here is a larger definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging ).

The process is really quite complicated on the whole and several systems inside the computer are required to work together properly for the process to run smoothly. You are getting the error because one of those processes is breaking down. The most likely suspect is a bad sector on your hard drive. You can read more about that here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Mo...ng_Technology).

My suggestion to remove the paging from the process would verify that 1) the problem was something that dealt with the paging process 2) would remove the paging process from the equation. If the problem persisted even after the paging process was removed, then suspects would turn to the Video Card as a likely candidate. If the problem did not arrise again, then you would probably want to look into a utility that helped fix or section off bad sectors on your hard drive.

As Jephree said, let us know if there is anything we might be able to add to this answer for you.

Glenn

If you want to test the paging without altering the registry you can do so here:

Right click My Computer then click Properties then Advanced

> Performance > Settings > Advanced > Virtual Memory > Change

No paging file

You can monitor the change on your system via the Task Manager > Performance tab

The Task Manager can be opened by right clicking an empty area of the Task Bar and choosing Task Manager.



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ok, thanks a lot guys...i'm going to run these tests and see what happens.
I'll keep you posted.

thanks again,