router problems

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    maeday69 is offline Junior Member

    router problems

    hello and thank you for your time.I have windows xp home,my ISP is Clear,and I have a Belkin router.I have the router and the modem connected in the living room and my computer connects wirelessly from my bedroom.Someone else in the house has a computer also connecting wirelessly.I will be on line and as soon as she goes on line I will lose my connection and I have to disconnect and reconnect the router and modem and/or restart my computer.Also there will be an internet gateway that is in network connections that was not there before.What am I doing wrong?Is there a setting I need to change?

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    The strange Internet gateway bothers me a bit. There normally is only one and the modem should be serving that function. Where are you seeing that?

    Are you sure there are no unauthorized users/computers using your access?

    How are your computers getting their IP assignments? Via DHCP (automatically) or are they statically assigned? You need to make sure they are different. You might unplug everything. Then plug in the modem, wait for it to settle down, then the router and wait again. Then her computer, then yours.

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    maeday69 is offline Junior Member
    The internet gateway is in network connections.It is listed first then under that my wireless and then my lan.It won't allow me to disable or delete.When I try to disable it has a message that says something about the shared computer having rights to disable.Delete is not even highlighted.
    I was wondering would it be better to plug my router into my computer and the modem into the router?thanks again for your help.

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    I was wondering would it be better to plug my router into my computer and the modem into the router?thanks again for your help.
    Well that the best way, and one of the main reasons to use a router, so you don't have to share connections. If both of you go through wireless to the router, Internet connection sharing should be disabled.

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    maeday69 is offline Junior Member
    wait now i am lost...how do two computers use the same internet wirelessly without a router?is one the host and the other just gets it via wireless(don't know much I am trying to learn)?
    just to be clear it is better to go through my computer with the router and modem or have the modem and router by themselves in another room?

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
    wait now i am lost...
    Sorry, it can be confusing.

    how do two computers use the same internet wirelessly without a router?
    There are ad hoc networks so a home or small office can network their computers without a router. They can then share an Internet connection. But by far, the easiest, and most secure way is with a WAP and router or with a "wireless router".

    Let's make sure we're getting terminology right first. Understand that technically, there's no such thing as a "wireless router". That is a marketing term to indicate a single box that contains a router and a WAP - wireless access point. The router and the WAP are two totally separate network devices, but in a "wireless router" they just happen to be mounted (integrated) on to the same circuit board and put inside the same box. This is done for convenience and lower costs (one box, one power supply, etc.). It is just like motherboards today have totally separate sound, network interface, and often graphics devices that are integrated on to the same circuit board.

    Routers only have one input and one output. The output typically connects "upstream" to the modem, and the modem serves as the "Gateway" device connecting your network (even if a network of one computer) to the Internet.

    So, to allow multiple computers to connect to the router, almost all routers (wired and wireless) have yet another device integrated into the same box, typically a 4-port Ethernet "switch". The Ethernet Switch allows you connect 4 computers (or more switches for lots more computers) via Ethernet cables to the router so they can then share the modem's connection to the Internet.

    So the path for a wired computer to connect to the Internet is from the PC's Network Interface connection > Router (via integrated Ethernet Switch) > Modem > ISP.

    Now for wireless devices (such as computers and printers), they connect to the WAP. And inside the router box, that WAP is also connected to the router just like the 4-port switch is. So a computer that connects through a wireless connection goes through the PC's wireless adapter > Router (via integrated WAP) > Modem > ISP.

    I hope that clears things up a bit. The key thing is, if you have a router and all your computers connect to the router via Ethernet or wireless, you do not need and should not have Internet sharing set up on any of the computers.

    Note to add to the confusion, there are even 4-in-one devices sold today that in one box contain a 4-port switch, router, WAP and the modem!
    Last edited by Digerati; 01-02-2011 at 03:03 PM. Reason: minor edits for clarity

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    maeday69 is offline Junior Member
    thank you so much that totally helps!i really appreciate your time.i am going to try this whole thing again and we shall see...thanks

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    Digerati is offline Super Moderator
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