What'll I need to implement wireless dial-up?

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    pastures is offline Full Member

    Question What'll I need to implement wireless dial-up?

    I'm not inquiriung about a "network" per se. I merely want to be able to access the Net wirelessly from my laptop, from a deck chair outside. So I have to bypass my laptop's built-in modem for starters, because it is hard-wired to the phone line port. So, I assume, I must first purchase a wireless network card and install it in one of my PC Card slots. That's not hard. But then what?? Do I need a router for just ONE machine? I own an external 56k modem (for serial or USB connect) -- but that's not going to help me much, will it. I know I'll need a wireless networking card but beyond that I am really not sure. I suppose they make an external modem that is suited for this scenario? I also thought about using my laptop's infrared port instead, but I suppose that hasn't sufficient range or just isn't the way to go.

    Whaddya got for me?


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    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    Hi,

    No, infra-red won't do the job.

    What you need is a wireless network router with a built-in modem. It's important to get one with an integrated modem in the same box as many routers are designed to plug into an external modem or another router via an ethernet (network) cable.

    It is unlikely that you will be able to use your existing external modem as most new routers don't have a serial port. You could possibly find one second-hand somewhere with a serial port but it's likely to be hard to configure (and hard for us to help with if you need assistance) as well as having a poor wireless range.

    When looking for a router, check that it supports 56k dial-up connections as well as DSL connections.

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    pastures is offline Full Member
    Hey THANKS ..that sounds good

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    pastures is offline Full Member
    Quote Originally Posted by DJNafey View Post
    What you need is a wireless network router with a built-in modem.
    I searched briefly for such an item and couldn't locate one but I've an idea for a workaround. For about $61 (seen here http://www.compsource.com/ttechnote....201&vid=&src=F) I can get an Actiontec brand external 56k modem with built-in router and 2 RJ-45 ports. Only problem is it doesn't seem to support wireless mode. BUT... I have a unit that does support wireless, and I assume that any one router can certainly be plugged into (chained) to another. What I have is a DSL modem (Westell VersaLink 327W) with one main and 4 subsidiary RJ-45 ports. So wouldn't that function effectively as a router per se??? I get a wireless networking card for my laptop, which will talk to the VersaLink. Then I cable the VersaLink to the Actiontec and plug that in to my home phone line. Does that sound workable please?

    [edit: ie. the VersaLink is a piece of hardware gathering dust here, so maybe I can use it to do this]
    Last edited by pastures; 10-07-2007 at 07:59 PM.

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    DJNafey is offline UK site moderator
    Your solution sounds feasible but messy!

    Rather than a DSL modem, think of the Versalink as a wireless router with built-in DSL modem as that sounds like what it is ..... and, conveniently, that's what I said you should get! Does it have an RJ11 port that can connect it to a telephone line? If it does, then check whether it will support your 56k dial-up connection - you might not need the new Actiontec 56k modem at all. If the Versalink doesn't have an RJ11 port, then I think that you're wrong to describe it as a DSL modem - it's just a wireless router.

    Hope that helps

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    pastures is offline Full Member
    Quote Originally Posted by DJNafey View Post
    Your solution sounds feasible but messy!
    ... If the Versalink doesn't have an RJ11 port, then I think that you're wrong to describe it as a DSL modem - it's just a wireless router.
    I don't doubt you are right to correct my terminology. It's the box that Verizon gave us when we tried DSL (and subsequently gave up on), so I figure it to be a DSL device, primarily. It doesn't have an RJ-11 port but still, your advice is a big help, thanks. Messy though it might be, this sounds like a possible way to go. It sounds to me like $61 might be "getting off easy", especially since your "router with built-in 56k modem" appears to be a rare animal indeed -- or else I'm using a poor search string. Although I DID find a router with V.92 modem for back-up. It costs $833!

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    pastures is offline Full Member
    I'd like more help with this. I acquired the Actiontec Dual PC Modem and it works great when I hooked it up directly to my laptop employing a wired Network Adapter PC Card. Okay, that was just to confirm the modem's functionality. So then I dismantled that setup and put a wireless Network Adapter into my laptop, expecting it to talk successfully with the Versalink. Well it did! The Versalink employs a built-in WEP security key. I had to specify that key and select "Open System" for type of encryption. In other words, it took a bit of doing, but I got a connection to the Versalink. But alas I've failed so far to get the "Dual PC Modem" (or my desktop PC) tacked onto that network. I plug the Ethernet cord from the modem to the E1 slot in the back of the Versalink. Some lights flicker as if the hardware is automatically trying to negotiate a link, but no go. My wireless networking card includes a little software utility for configuration, status, etcetera. It has a section called "Site Survey" where it lists the nodes (?) that are present, but it shows ONLY the SSID of the Versalink and nothing else. Of course I've tried numerous "refresh", "reset", reboot and whatnot, but the Actiontec special modem does not appear to be online. I also tried plugging an Ethernet cord from my desktop PC (runnning WXP) to the Versalink's E2 slot. According to my PC, there IS now a live link present. But if I then connect that PC to the internet (with its own internal modem), I cannot access the net from the laptop which is supposedly also talking with the Versalink.

    My know-how here has petered out. I either don't have a host or I'm missing a client or a gateway -- heck, I have no idea! But I can tell you that I looked online for other routers for sale, and all I ever see are devices advertised as a "wireless broadband router for DSL or cable modem". There appears to be no "general purpose" routers, and I surely don't have DSL or Cable internet access so I cannot satisfy those other device's yearnings Is that it?

    This Versalink device DOES have an RJ-11 port (you inquired) but it is ONLY for the purpose of hooking DSL in there.

    Any ideas?

    Thank you!

    [edit: BTW I got the Actiontec device brand new, on the cheap, via eBay]
    Last edited by pastures; 15-07-2007 at 10:00 PM. Reason: afterthought

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    Digerati is offline Senior Quiquagenarian
    Give the WiFlyer a look. It might be exactly what you need. $99.

    Reviews:

    Mobile Tech Review - "For those of you who travel and need your Internet, the WiFlyer is a must-have. For those of you who don't even travel much, but have wirelessly enabled devices, the WiFlyer makes a very handy tool to have around!"

    PCWorld - "But if you regularly rely on dial-up connectivity when traveling, or you want the option to easily create a wireless network connection, I'd recommend giving WiFlyer a try."

    ATrueReview - "For anyone who wants to easily share their dial-up account or any frequent traveler who wants a wireless Internet connection anywhere they stay, the Always On Wireless WiFlyer Dial-up/Broadband Portable Access Point is for you."

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    pastures is offline Full Member
    Please do pardon my waffling. I see now that the problem must be with the Actiontec box in all likelihood. here's why. I checked the status lights on the Versalink and it shows E1 (the Actiontec Dual PC Modem) flickering steadily, yet indicator E2 (my desktop PC) shows steady. As I said, my PC shows a viable live link. It is probably functioning correctly. I don't know enough about networking to know how to test it. My previous test of trying to share the PC's dial-up connection -- that was ill thought out. There's likely special setup required to share an internet connection that particular way. But I'm probably perfectly good right now to transfer files and such. I'm not sure just yet how exactly to test it.

    But the Actiontec box shows its "Network 1" indicator light not steady. It goes out for a few seconds every 10 or 15 seconds. So that must be where the connection has failed. I don't know precisely how to address this snag. Maybe I was wrong on my earlier presumptions about the "Site Survey" display of the laptop's wireless card showing just the one SSID, that of the Versalink. Maybe it is not supposed to show additional connected nodes there

    Any ideas? Thanks.

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    pastures is offline Full Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digerati View Post
    Give the WiFlyer[/URL] a look. It might be exactly what you need.
    Ah yes, thank you. That does appear to be exactly what I need alright. But if I can make do with the cheap stuff I already have, that would be preferable, since the WiFlyer has more features than I require.

    Thanks for that!

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