The Phoenix has landed!

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    k_9
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    Re: The Phoenix has landed!

    I believe so, infact i believe in most things that are mystical the human mind... i believe ghosts are even real... partly because i know someone who has seen one in their new home after they moved home...

    But even still, here's a youtube clip.

    I'll let you do the deciding!



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    k_9
    k_9 is offline Dedicated Member
    Darn, the screen didn't work. use the link instead

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8EHRzG3DA&NR=1
    Last edited by k_9; 14-06-2008 at 09:30 PM.

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    NASA confirms, beyond any earthly doubt, that water really really really does exist on Mars.

    Laboratory tests aboard NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander have identified water in a soil sample. The lander's robotic arm delivered the sample Wednesday to an instrument that identifies vapors produced by the heating of samples.
    "We have water," said William Boynton of the University of Arizona, lead scientist for the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer, or TEGA. "We've seen evidence for this water ice before in observations by the Mars Odyssey orbiter and in disappearing chunks observed by Phoenix last month, but this is the first time Martian water has been touched and tasted."

    NASA Spacecraft Confirms Martian Water, Mission Extended (nasa.gov).

    NASA - NASA Spacecraft Confirms Martian Water, Mission Extended

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    bootneck02 is offline Dedicated Member
    I have just looked at the weather chart in this site, it is bloody cold there. Knocks our cold weather for six.

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    k_9
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    NASA confirms, beyond any earthly doubt, that water really really really does exist on Mars.
    Um, didn't you believe them when they first said they may have "possibly" found water on Mars. I did. They know much more than us about space tech... their opinions normally become facts but i'm glad they like to check things over

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    The White House is Briefed: Phoenix About to Announce "Potential For Life" on Mars | Universe Today

    Excerpt:

    It would appear that the US President has been briefed by Phoenix scientists about the discovery of something more "provocative" than the discovery of water existing on the Martian surface. This news comes just as the Thermal and Evolved Gas Analyzer (TEGA) confirmed experimental evidence for the existence of water in the Mars regolith on Thursday. Whilst NASA scientists are not claiming that life once existed on the Red Planet's surface, new data appears to indicate the "potential for life" more conclusively than the TEGA water results. Apparently these new results are being kept under wraps until further, more detailed analysis can be carried out, but we are assured that this announcement will be huge…

    So why is there all this secrecy? According to scientists in communication with Aviation Week & Space Technology, the next big discovery will need to be mulled over for a while before it is announced to the world. In fact, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory science team for the MECA wet-chemistry instrument that made these undisclosed findings were kept out of the July 31st news conference (confirming water) so additional analysis could be carried out, avoiding any questions that may have revealed their preliminary results. They have also made the decision to discuss the results with the Bush Administration's Presidential Science Advisor's office before a press conference between mid-August and early September.

    Although good news, Thursday's announcement of the discovery of water on Mars comes as no surprise to mission scientists and some are amused by the media's reaction to the TEGA results. "They have discovered water on Mars for the third or fourth time," one senior Mars scientist joked. These new MECA results are, according to the Phoenix team, a little more complex than the water "discovery." Scientists are keen to point out however, that this secretive news will in no way indicate the existence of life (past or present) on Mars; Phoenix simply is not equipped make this discovery. What it can do is test the Mars soil for compounds suitable to support life. The MECA instrument does have microscopes capable of resolving bacterial-scale life forms however, but this is not the focus of the forthcoming announcement, sources say.

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    rokytnji is offline Dedicated Member
    Maybe its graffiti like " Kilroy was here" .

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    Mars secret is not life. It's Perchlorate.


    NASA - NASA Spacecraft Analyzing Martian Soil Data


    Excerpt:

    Confirmation of the presence of perchlorate and supporting data is important prior to scientific peer review and subsequent public announcements. The results from Sunday's TEGA experiment, which analyzed a sample taken directly above the ice layer, found no evidence of this compound.

    "This is surprising since an earlier TEGA measurement of surface materials was consistent with but not conclusive of the presence of perchlorate," said Peter Smith, Phoenix's principal investigator at the University of Arizona, Tucson.

    Scientists at the Phoenix Science Operations Center at the University of Arizona, Tucson, are specifically looking at the data from these instruments to provide information on the composition of Martian soil.

    "We are committed to following a rigorous scientific process. While we have not completed our process on these soil samples, we have very interesting intermediate results," said Smith, "Initial MECA analyses suggested Earth-like soil. Further analysis has revealed un-Earthlike aspects of the soil chemistry."

    The team also is working to totally exonerate any possibility of the perchlorate readings being influenced by terrestrial sources which may have migrated from the spacecraft, either into samples or into the instrumentation.

    "When surprising results are found, we want to review and assure our extensive pre-launch contamination control processes covered this potential," said Barry Goldstein, Phoenix project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

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    rokytnji is offline Dedicated Member
    Looks like Kilroy was there.

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